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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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church on the game-changer Radio Network

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I need your help to get to a year 1985

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welcome fade to black

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this spoke radio for the masses yeah man

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here we go been waiting for this night

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today's Wednesday June 27th 2018 178

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in beautiful downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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planets amuro's Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing how you

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doing how you doing

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very special guest Tracey Garbett is

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gonna discuss experiencer and contactee

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days of disclosure and then we've got a

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close to this show tonight that I can't

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wait to get to but only I know well and

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a couple of others so get ready for that

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that's our show tonight tomorrow night

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is another Fator night with John wrap up

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what without Jon Rappoport he's on the

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road doing some research again this week

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he'll be back next week with his no more

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fake newsroom live but tomorrow night it

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will be open lines all night long

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all right now on stellar is the place to

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be everybody knows go and register at on

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referral code Jimmy when you do and then

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when you get over there send me a friend

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there we've got the game changer network

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Goode Robert Schoch you know all of your

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favorite researchers over at on stellar

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comm come and hang out with us share the

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knowledge check out the articles that

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are there I just posted one again today

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in its entirety in just a bit but that's

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the conversation thank you for all of my

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that but where do you guys go for these

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go in in front because these all apply

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you want to do okay it's very simple now

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just want to say this my little breaking

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news section of the intro that I do

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every night on the show that all things

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they say they say that all things happen

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my family was stunned beyond what is

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fair all of us and I'm gonna say this I

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happen and you know the the big stuff

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the bad stuff and we faked it and we

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hide it you know life is good

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you know you hide the reality of what is

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going on and you deal with things

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privately and rather than try and do

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that tonight on this show to act like

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nothing happened today well that's just

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not right and it's just not fair

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so I'm letting you know that we were

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pummeled okay and it was something that

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I'm just I'm not gonna go into the

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details I'm not gonna do any of that

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what I want you to know is that I'm here

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and I'm on this microphone and if I

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laugh my way through tonight and I

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didn't mention in anything about it

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that's not really cool I feel like I

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would be lying it would be deception

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that's not cool because everybody goes

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through stuff and including here and if

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I would have done that tonight which I

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could have then you don't understand the

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reality of the situation so let me just

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say this it's this family of ours the

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fade to black family the fade or knots

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that give Rita and I the strength to

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just plow through it okay and when life

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just is not fair when life is not cool

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you know the Sun always comes up

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tomorrow is a new day because I'll say

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this today when I woke up it was a

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bright beautiful day it was a bright

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beautiful day everything was great and

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then it unraveled and it unraveled very

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quickly and the thought of not doing the

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show tonight is not cool the thought of

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doing the show tonight and not

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mentioning this is not cool so what do

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you do well you know what it's it's this

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audience in this family that allows us

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to just do it and get things done

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because when light when life is not fair

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you've got to you've got a you've got a

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punch back that's what you have to do

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okay all right so are you with me I deal

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with me I know that you are so I am

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going to laughs I'm gonna have the best

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show that we've ever had tonight

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Tracy Garbett is here I am so excited

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about this and it's it's what I need and

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then after the show tonight I had said

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to Rita it's gonna be a great show but

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after the show tonight I am getting junk

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food I'm getting junk food and I went

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down the list of what I'm gonna do after

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deal with it all right okay all right

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let's move on let's move on I want to

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thank all of you every single one of you

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for being here for us okay all right

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don't forget to sign up for our soul

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to get together up at eSATA ranch this

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August 9th through the 12th let's go to

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soul tech gathering calm but we've got

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the most amazing weekend lined up for

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all of you we're going to be teaching

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all weekend long we're gonna create

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those memories and friendships that are

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gonna last an entire lifetime come and

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join us up there I've invited Cory good

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to be our special guest my friend my

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guest all weekend hanging out with you

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we're gonna do night watches we're going

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to be teaching we've got classroom set

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place to hang out with all of you soul

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tech gathering calm go and get your

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tickets now it's about to sell out and I

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know I keep giving you this warning but

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it's it's about to go down okay so go if

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you if you've you know delayed for

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whatever reason go and take care of

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business now soul tech gathering calm

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then a week later

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be August 17th through the 19th I'll be

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in Loveland Colorado at dimensions of

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disclosure with Corey good David Wilcock

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calm all right and when you go over to

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JJ Abrams 52 years old right Star Wars

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Star Trek fringe lost super 8 right

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parts it was but it was absolutely

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amazing 11/22/63 JJ Abrams is clearly in

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our corner he's 52 today

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happy birthday JJ Abrams okay on this

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day in history in 1829 it went down in

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Genoa Italy English scientist James

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peculiar footnote in his will he said in

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Washington under the name of the

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Smithsonian Institution an establishment

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for the increase and diffusion of

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knowledge Smith's ins curious bequest to

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a country that he had never visited

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aroused significant attentions on both

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sides of the Atlantic and continues to

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this day it happened on this day OTD in

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1829 Fader fact here you go a tomato

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plant was found on the volcanic island

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surtsey off the southern coast of

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Iceland it had grown from the feces of a

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scientist that took a dump that it's

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it's a fader of fact it's vetted it

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really happened you should go look at

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Surtsey as su RT sey go look at it

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Google Maps right there southern coast

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of Iceland middle of the frozen Atlantic

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Ocean on a volcanic island a tomato

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plant was found yeah how did it get

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there well I just told you go look at it

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there's nothing on that island except

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for a volcano and the tomato plant the

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tomato plant was removed by the way it

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was bagged and tagged

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tonight's Tracy Garbett is here yes I'm

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gonna introduce you her to you and the

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world tonight and her story her

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education her life is an amazing one and

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we're gonna discuss experiencer in

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contactee research we're gonna discuss

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her life story how she got here and how

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all of it is affected by these days of

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disclosure then we're gonna close out

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the show with another special guest but

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you're gonna have to wait it's good to

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be amazing tomorrow night is another

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Fator night without Jon Rappoport and

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his no more fake newsroom live but we

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will have open lines all night long now

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I posted an article um you have to

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excuse me I'm working through this okay

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I need you guys to work through this

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with me there you go a couple of weeks

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ago I posted an article over on on

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stellar about Big Brother about how big

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brother is listening now I talked about

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it on this show posted the article I

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went over to coast to coast and and

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talked about it very publicly about a

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conversation that I had had on a phone

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my iPhone with a friend and that phone

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call and conversation consisted about a

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conversation about cameras and lenses

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right okay you guys know what I'm

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talking about

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and those camera and lenses were

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purchased by another friend of ours

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friend of this show actually and very

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expensive very nice lenses and then that

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conversation was about us a shooting

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video and a documentary that we're gonna

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do up at ESET e-force all tech all right

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and so that's why that conversation even

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happened at all it was a short

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three-minute conversation about this

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documentary and filming and cameras and

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things up at

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city ranch well no big deal right you

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know and I want to be clear that I'm not

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a photographer I'm not I'm not a video

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guy okay my video and photography

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happens on my phone that's that's the

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existence of my participation in it I'm

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an audio specialist okay

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I know audio and it's technology as well

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as anyone on the planet I can hang with

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anybody on this planet about audio and

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it's technology I've very serious

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knowledge and bragging rights in this

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area and I've spent my entire life doing

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just that audio in all forms right

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but photography no I'm I'm just not into

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it I like looking at it

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but I don't research it I don't follow

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it and like I said my it's my camera on

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my iPhone that's as far as I go

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what goes with that and again I need to

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be clear is that I've never surged

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clicked watched or otherwise done

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anything I'm the net concerting a camera

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or a lens ever as I as I presented in my

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article about this the next morning my

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internet feeds were flooded with

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advertising about cameras and lenses it

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was everywhere and it freaked me out

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because I found it so strange because I

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had never really talked about it you

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know I was confused why would this

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advertising just show up seemingly out

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of nowhere it was only that one little

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three-minute conversation that happened

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the day before it could that be it could

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could that be what triggered it and if

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it is what triggered it then it's

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definite proof that someone or something

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is listening now they Zuckerberg and

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Google and everybody else say

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they are not they are not listening well

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I call BS last night on fade to black

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I had Jason Louvre on the show we were

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talking about technology AIA our Google

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Facebook the NSA I'll say it again the

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NSA etc and I mentioned last night

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speaking with Jason the article and my

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little experience with the camera in the

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lens advertising and you remember

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Jason's response well yeah right yeah

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they're listening all right they have AI

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that could convert words into text and

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know what you're into and boom

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advertising you know and it was

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confirmation right well walls today

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while surfing and researching for the

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show tonight

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another camera ad popped up now and and

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I freaked

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posted earlier today on Twitter a shot

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of the ad now what I did do today is I

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went back and I and I just took confirm

402
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all of this I go back and I'm like going

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to different websites I'm just going

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around I went to CNN I went to Fox I

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went to BBC I went to al-jazeera you

406
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know and all of these are Adsense and

407
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Google ads you know that feed those

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right but those ads follow you is who

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jump around on the net and and I went to

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other places too as well the ads

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followed me so I grabbed screenshots I

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grabbed screenshots they were everywhere

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today and what is weird is that to prove

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to myself that there was something going

415
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on right you know and to me it's really

416
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scary but to prove to myself that I'm

417
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not bonkers I haven't clicked on any of

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the advertising haven't done it since it

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happened two weeks ago two through to

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today and I

421
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don't haven't right I haven't done any

422
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searches I haven't done anything camera

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or a camera related nothing I didn't

424
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want to trigger any BOTS and and the ads

425
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kind of went away and I kind of forgot

426
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:51,790
about it until last night right when I

427
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did that little mention to Jason about

428
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how this could be pulled off but today

429
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like magic

430
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I've got cameras and lenses on my net

431
00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:05,740
and it's not cool now this is the deal

432
00:23:11,730 --> 00:23:08,830
I'm gonna figure this out I'm going to

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00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:11,740
get to the bottom of it and when I do I

434
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:14,890
will stop at nothing to expose this

435
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:17,770
technology to the world this goes way

436
00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:20,770
beyond anything that is acceptable and

437
00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:23,710
what makes it worse is that Facebook and

438
00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:26,350
Google and everybody else say that they

439
00:23:33,810 --> 00:23:30,550
don't do it and they are lying

440
00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:33,820
they're lying I have all the proof that

441
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I need big brother is listening this is

442
00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:39,490
not a joke and I am NOT crazy and nobody

443
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:41,860
is gonna tell me any different I am

444
00:23:47,550 --> 00:23:45,490
speaking about my own experience this

445
00:23:50,250 --> 00:23:47,560
isn't somebody else telling me about

446
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:50,260
what is happening to them or that they

447
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:52,450
heard from a friend that this is going

448
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on or that they read on some blog

449
00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:58,720
somewhere that this is happening I am

450
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:02,320
being very serious here I need you to

451
00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:05,170
take another look at that image do it

452
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:07,750
when I hit this break I'll post some of

453
00:24:14,190 --> 00:24:11,530
the other screenshots that I grabbed you

454
00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:14,200
know what I posted today was taken on my

455
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:17,980
computer at 2:36 p.m. and the

456
00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:22,090
conversation was with Jason on this show

457
00:24:30,750 --> 00:24:28,390
last night not on my phone on this show

458
00:24:33,690 --> 00:24:30,760
which opens up a whole nother

459
00:24:35,910 --> 00:24:33,700
conversation think about what I am

460
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:35,920
saying phones

461
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:39,760
I guess we're forced to get it okay

462
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:42,970
they're listening whether it's a phone

463
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:45,970
conversation or you're surfing they are

464
00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:46,880
listening

465
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:49,040
it doesn't matter if it's Android or

466
00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:52,400
iPhone they are listening I've heard

467
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:54,950
that Facebook and Facebook Messenger if

468
00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:56,930
it's installed on your phone messengers

469
00:25:02,590 --> 00:24:58,580
is there by default you can turn it off

470
00:25:05,410 --> 00:25:02,600
but you can't you can't uninstall it

471
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:05,420
right so there's that part we have Siri

472
00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:09,890
that microphone is always on so phones I

473
00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:10,430
get it

474
00:25:19,450 --> 00:25:16,220
Smart TVs again understood the Internet

475
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:19,460
of Things around your house ditto with

476
00:25:29,260 --> 00:25:24,650
that too but this was live on the show

477
00:25:34,690 --> 00:25:29,270
last night that is freaking me out

478
00:25:37,690 --> 00:25:34,700
and again we have various VPNs and

479
00:25:40,750 --> 00:25:37,700
things that we run with with IP

480
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:40,760
protocols and and we hide things and and

481
00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:43,610
we have to I'm always running from

482
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:45,020
hackers and people that want to bring

483
00:25:52,930 --> 00:25:48,590
this show down the amount of attempts

484
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:52,940
per day on our servers and my email

485
00:26:00,370 --> 00:25:55,490
servers attempts per day a passwords

486
00:26:03,220 --> 00:26:00,380
number in the thousands and it's it's

487
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:03,230
not any one person it's it's a variety

488
00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:06,410
of attacks so we are very protective

489
00:26:11,410 --> 00:26:09,830
here so that that's another layer of

490
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,420
weirdness for me

491
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:14,240
I haven't clicked you need to understand

492
00:26:19,870 --> 00:26:16,610
I haven't clicked searched I've only

493
00:26:22,420 --> 00:26:19,880
thought about and spoken about this and

494
00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:22,430
last night it was live on the show it

495
00:26:33,850 --> 00:26:29,140
wasn't on my phone I am just blown away

496
00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:33,860
so now that I know I am convinced I have

497
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:36,590
the proof that's it I know that this is

498
00:26:43,780 --> 00:26:40,130
going on how what when where and what

499
00:26:49,330 --> 00:26:43,790
the technology is I am going to find out

500
00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:49,340
I will I what Zuckerberg said last month

501
00:26:55,660 --> 00:26:53,000
in Washington DC was clearly a lie and

502
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:55,670
not the truth and for everybody else out

503
00:27:00,110 --> 00:26:57,890
there and that goes with Google and

504
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:00,120
YouTube and Adsense and all of the

505
00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:01,710
they're advertising companies and the

506
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:04,140
the software and the cleverness and how

507
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:07,710
they are doing this it is it is going to

508
00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:11,910
get exposed I will find out and it I am

509
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:16,350
going to just scream to the world and I

510
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:18,570
will make sure I will make sure that it

511
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:20,880
is exposed there's something going on

512
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:25,770
and and and again to be clear if I was

513
00:27:32,030 --> 00:27:29,700
told that it is happening and they are

514
00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:32,040
doing it no harm no foul

515
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:34,590
we know that it's going on if you are

516
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:36,570
gonna say that you're not doing it and

517
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:38,970
it is happening then you're trying to

518
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:41,700
make a sucker out of me all of you and

519
00:27:46,370 --> 00:27:43,170
the people on this planet

520
00:27:49,220 --> 00:27:46,380
you're clearly lying and that's the

521
00:27:52,150 --> 00:27:49,230
uncool part and I want to catch him I

522
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:52,160
want to catch him in that lie I know

523
00:27:57,770 --> 00:27:55,890
something is going on this is fade to

524
00:28:00,860 --> 00:27:57,780
black I'm Yours Jim you church tonight

525
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:00,870
Tracey Garbett is here it's gonna be a

526
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:02,580
conversation and a show that you are

527
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:05,460
gonna remember for a very long time I'm

528
00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:07,890
very excited about this and this is

529
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:11,070
clearly not the last time she's gonna be

530
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,890
on this show tonight it's Tracy Garbett

531
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:15,600
tomorrow night open lines

532
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:19,650
Fator night all night long and for some

533
00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:21,930
reason you know what the NSA I know I

534
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:23,430
know they're listening right now

535
00:28:29,150 --> 00:28:27,150
do those AT&T concrete buildings going

536
00:28:34,610 --> 00:28:29,160
all the way across this country well

537
00:28:35,270 --> 00:28:34,620
you're not gonna win not this time no

538
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:35,280
way

539
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:38,490
stayed to black thank you for being here

540
00:28:45,050 --> 00:28:42,510
with Rita and hi tonight it's gonna be a

541
00:28:48,530 --> 00:28:45,060
great show thank you fade to black I'm

542
00:28:53,150 --> 00:28:48,540
the game changer networking K tra the

543
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:53,160
planet on the game changer network I'll

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The Fader not family tomorrow night on

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fader night tonight it's Tracy Garvin

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now I've been talking about this all

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week long I'm gonna introduce you to

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Tracy tonight and to the rest of the

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world

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Tracy earned her bachelor's degree in

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psychology and international studies at

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the University of South Florida st.

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Petersburg in 2016 she founded and

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served as president for Big Sisters of

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psychology becoming a widely recognized

634
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leader who inspired many students on

635
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their self a journey discovery now Tracy

636
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is a professionally trained remote

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viewer whose work has been evaluated by

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several leading figures in the field

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00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:00,670
including Paul elder and skip Atwater

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many of her remote views have been

641
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regarded as exceptional including a

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striking example of accurately

643
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perceiving a location 2600 miles away

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through the eyes and sense organ of

645
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another person tracy has also had a

646
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number of direct contact experiences

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with apparent non-human intelligences

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all of which she has carefully recorded

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and one of which occurred while present

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with another witness and we will discuss

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this tonight too as well she views her

652
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contact experiences enter work on remote

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viewing as an outgrowth and extension of

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her lifelong spiritual and philosophical

655
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endeavors these include extensive

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training at the renowned Monroe

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Institute in Virginia as well as the

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rampa School of Enlightenment and I

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would like to welcome for the first time

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to fade to black

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Tracy garbage Tracy good evening how are

662
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you hi Jimmy I'm great thanks so much

663
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for having me on

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Tracy you get the first-time guest his

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claim

666
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tonight I know you've been looking

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forward to it so let's just get it out

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of the way all right it's just you and I

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sitting on my couch having a

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conversation as friends where the

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conversation starts it starts where it

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ends it ends but we're gonna end as

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friends there you go

674
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you ready sounds good yeah let's do it

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so excited and there's a few things that

676
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I kind of want to get out of the way the

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first is this and then we're gonna go

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backwards but I want to start a little

679
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bit in the present tense

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which is you you did a TED talk and the

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and and everybody can go and look that

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up now if you wish I didn't average hi

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00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:51,700
he's had in advance but you did a TED

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talk and which which I thought was quite

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amazing but the audience and this is

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what is the fascinating part the

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audience has no idea about remote

688
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viewing or ET or experience or and they

689
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don't have any idea and my point is this

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you never know who you are gonna meet

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who you walk past during the day or see

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at a TED talk that could be an

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experiencer they come in all sizes

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shapes and flavors don't they oh god

695
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that is so true that is so true I think

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about that when I get on planes and you

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know sometimes you talk to the person

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beside you and sometimes you don't and I

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think sometimes you know that person

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could be a contact D that or you know

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that person could have gone through

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something so unusual every once in a

703
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while you know think this and I'll get

704
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up the nerve to ask them and sort of dig

705
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in and you know sometimes you don't but

706
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you're so right you just never know

707
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what's going on in people's lives and

708
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the way that you are perceived I mean

709
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for instance you get up there at your

710
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:03,070
TED talk right and you go now before I

711
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get started you know i remote viewing

712
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:10,349
and I think I've met ET let's continue

713
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now right the perception is immediately

714
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changed

715
00:37:21,370 --> 00:37:18,180
for you is that fair oh yeah absolutely

716
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I feel like especially in academia

717
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because that was the context that I did

718
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:29,070
that particular TEDx talk in yeah I

719
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don't know well what happened my

720
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credibility would have been gone just

721
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:33,990
like that for one thing and it's not

722
00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:38,730
fair is it no it's very unfortunate but

723
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:41,400
it's it's true in a lot of cases

724
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:44,490
particularly that context and you know

725
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:47,910
out there in society yeah for sure

726
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:50,940
it is it is so let's let's back up a

727
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little bit here bachelor's degree in

728
00:38:03,470 --> 00:37:58,950
psychology right a pretty solid CV in

729
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:03,480
and background but did you have anything

730
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:07,910
that you may have kept in the closet

731
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growing up did you have any experiences

732
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:17,450
what were your parents like I did have

733
00:38:24,830 --> 00:38:20,730
experiences if you're talking our type

734
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:24,840
of experiences I did have unusual things

735
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:30,720
happening as a child my parents didn't

736
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:34,050
really know other than the fact that I

737
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was I had this debilitating fear of the

738
00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:41,970
dark that they sort of had to deal with

739
00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:45,350
and I had that through adulthood as well

740
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:47,940
my parents as far as what they were like

741
00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:50,910
my father I always jokingly say was the

742
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,820
epitome of the son this bold charismatic

743
00:39:00,110 --> 00:38:55,560
man and my mother was the epitome of the

744
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:00,120
moon she was she is intuitive quiet

745
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:06,090
gentle sensitive and and so and Canadian

746
00:39:12,980 --> 00:39:10,160
and Canadian that's right

747
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:12,990
very true yes grew up in Canada spent

748
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:16,320
almost my entire life in Canada and but

749
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:17,850
they weren't I mean if you're if you're

750
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:19,890
asking did they really know what was

751
00:39:23,630 --> 00:39:22,170
going on with me in terms of experiences

752
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:23,640
is that what you're asking well there's

753
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:26,430
that part we always need to discuss that

754
00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:29,490
I mean these are these things too

755
00:39:33,710 --> 00:39:31,950
you discussed with your parents or like

756
00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:33,720
I said is this stuff that you kept in

757
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:34,470
the closet

758
00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:38,010
okay I see well I pretty much I would

759
00:39:42,859 --> 00:39:40,440
say I kept it in the closet for the most

760
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:42,869
part and when things started really

761
00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:48,690
turning up in early adulthood you know

762
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:52,980
the frequency was are really increasing

763
00:39:59,420 --> 00:39:56,400
I didn't tell I don't think I told my

764
00:40:01,310 --> 00:39:59,430
mother right away but because they kept

765
00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:01,320
happening more and more and more there

766
00:40:03,290 --> 00:40:02,700
was a point where I started to bring her

767
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:03,300
in on it

768
00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:05,910
and it was just a sort of a slow process

769
00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:11,190
of warming her up I guess I was always

770
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:13,140
aware that I needed to sort of maintain

771
00:40:19,099 --> 00:40:16,650
my credibility even with my my parents I

772
00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:19,109
never ever spoke to my dad about

773
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:21,000
anything but my mother is a little more

774
00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:23,250
open you know being that sort of more

775
00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:28,680
intuitive sensitive type she when I

776
00:40:34,339 --> 00:40:30,840
would talk about things she could sort

777
00:40:37,099 --> 00:40:34,349
of relate and bringing it closer up to

778
00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:37,109
current day my mother has had some

779
00:40:46,339 --> 00:40:40,980
experiences not sort of contact with et

780
00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:46,349
or but more a paranormal visitation from

781
00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:49,320
my father after he passed so she's far

782
00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:52,020
more open my mother is watching ancient

783
00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:55,260
aliens now so we came a long way you

784
00:41:00,380 --> 00:40:57,240
know I can talk to her about pretty much

785
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:00,390
everything but it was a slow slow build

786
00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:02,609
so I was kind of in the closet for a

787
00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:06,420
while and but but I'm in a good place

788
00:41:10,839 --> 00:41:07,980
with my mom now I can talk to her about

789
00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:10,849
anything is she listening right now Oh

790
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:13,950
she'll probably listen to it later okay

791
00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:17,430
this is a little too late I'm just

792
00:41:24,740 --> 00:41:19,740
wondering what is gonna get disclosed

793
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:24,750
tonight that will be fine it'll be fine

794
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:27,060
she she knows like some of the things

795
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:30,720
I'll I'll tell you tonight there was a

796
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:32,190
time where I didn't really talk to her

797
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:35,070
that much and when some of these

798
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:39,570
experiences happened I called my mother

799
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:41,220
first thing in the morning because I I

800
00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:42,930
knew something was

801
00:41:49,099 --> 00:41:46,500
happening to me and my natural reaction

802
00:41:51,859 --> 00:41:49,109
was to go to my mother did you start -

803
00:41:53,809 --> 00:41:51,869
did you did you start to research did

804
00:41:56,299 --> 00:41:53,819
you start to look into this and maybe

805
00:42:00,380 --> 00:41:56,309
collect some books and and go down that

806
00:42:02,750 --> 00:42:00,390
road yes I have books all around me I

807
00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:02,760
sort of had the history the historical

808
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:05,160
collection from the beginning what I was

809
00:42:09,799 --> 00:42:07,050
looking into sort of spiritual

810
00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:09,809
philosophies and mediumship and more

811
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:12,119
paranormal and all these types of realms

812
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:15,420
and sort of the progression from there

813
00:42:20,839 --> 00:42:19,200
so yeah I was into books videos teachers

814
00:42:22,819 --> 00:42:20,849
I was going to different retreats

815
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:22,829
anything I could get my hands on I

816
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,160
really wanted to know I knew something

817
00:42:37,099 --> 00:42:29,280
was interacting with me and it kept

818
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:37,109
changing and all I could do was I keep

819
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:39,480
going to the buffet that was available

820
00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:42,089
out there on paranormal and these types

821
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:46,200
of things and you know try things ponder

822
00:42:54,549 --> 00:42:49,619
them build theories try to corroborate

823
00:42:59,240 --> 00:42:54,559
them you know right and how did that

824
00:43:06,680 --> 00:42:59,250
conflict or not with with psychology and

825
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:06,690
your education well psychology kind of

826
00:43:12,829 --> 00:43:08,730
stays away from a lot of this doesn't it

827
00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:12,839
especially exactly yeah psychology is

828
00:43:16,849 --> 00:43:14,579
all about pathology and telling a

829
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:16,859
psychologist about a lot of these things

830
00:43:21,940 --> 00:43:18,329
there's that there's actually an element

831
00:43:25,339 --> 00:43:21,950
of caution and potential danger there

832
00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:25,349
but I I should qualify that there's also

833
00:43:30,799 --> 00:43:28,230
safety there if something actually is

834
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:30,809
wrong you know something if there is

835
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,010
schizophrenia or there that you know

836
00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:36,480
disassociative identity disorder or

837
00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:37,950
something else going on yeah then

838
00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:39,750
psychology is a good thing but as far as

839
00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:43,619
my experiences no it didn't help at all

840
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:47,849
it though it was dead ends it was the

841
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:51,599
only form of psychology that is

842
00:43:59,029 --> 00:43:56,160
inclusive and whole a more holistic and

843
00:44:02,240 --> 00:43:59,039
cognizes these parts are transpersonal

844
00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:02,250
psychology right psychology that you

845
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:03,960
know goes beyond the personality and

846
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:05,490
depth psychology which is sort of

847
00:44:10,549 --> 00:44:08,490
similar but where where I took a lot of

848
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:10,559
my psychology here on the East Coast in

849
00:44:15,799 --> 00:44:13,380
Florida they was almost never even

850
00:44:19,250 --> 00:44:15,809
mentioned a lot of the the young

851
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:19,260
students in my class had never heard of

852
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:21,569
these before and you know it's funny

853
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:23,700
because I had experiences happening I

854
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:26,910
made it a point in every single class

855
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:28,530
that I was in when we introduced

856
00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:31,730
ourselves to say these were my real

857
00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:34,349
passions in psychology even though they

858
00:44:38,270 --> 00:44:36,150
weren't being taught here and then it

859
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:38,280
would be natural for these young 20 year

860
00:44:43,130 --> 00:44:41,190
olds to ask what is that and I kind of

861
00:44:46,789 --> 00:44:43,140
had this um you know I was going through

862
00:44:50,260 --> 00:44:46,799
my own exploration but I also was always

863
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:50,270
conscious of throwing out these seeds

864
00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:54,690
for these young folks knowing like you

865
00:44:58,339 --> 00:44:56,609
were saying in the beginning you never

866
00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:58,349
know what people are going through I'm

867
00:45:02,420 --> 00:44:59,880
thinking that while I'm looking at them

868
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:02,430
all the time how many of them are having

869
00:45:07,220 --> 00:45:04,770
contact experiences or things that are

870
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:07,230
scaring them or or even sleep paralysis

871
00:45:13,579 --> 00:45:09,089
and they don't know what it is and it's

872
00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:13,589
not being acknowledged so it was a fun

873
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:16,440
thing for me I kind of was building into

874
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:19,920
my psychology degree what I wanted by

875
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:22,710
reaching out to these younger students

876
00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:25,740
is interesting well and did you find it

877
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:31,940
strange that you know your your life

878
00:45:38,359 --> 00:45:34,440
nobody can take that from you nobody can

879
00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:38,369
tell you that it's know either it's not

880
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:40,230
happening or it's not real or it's not

881
00:45:47,299 --> 00:45:44,250
know that's your own experiences and

882
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:47,309
your own truth and then defined it not

883
00:45:56,029 --> 00:45:52,490
addressed in academia that it's either

884
00:45:59,660 --> 00:45:56,039
denial on academia spart or they don't

885
00:46:02,240 --> 00:45:59,670
do they choose not to address for

886
00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:02,250
whatever reason and you're going through

887
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:03,750
that because you're seeing both sides of

888
00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:08,250
the fence yeah it's very frustrating I

889
00:46:14,270 --> 00:46:10,340
mean the closest you can get to it

890
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:14,280
there is a little bit psychology of

891
00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:17,910
religion had a chapter on mysticism and

892
00:46:22,850 --> 00:46:20,700
it would you know sort of dabble

893
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:22,860
slightly but yes it was very very

894
00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:26,490
frustrating and you know I can tell you

895
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:29,400
a story later on but the school flat-out

896
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:31,710
rejected something I was doing in my own

897
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:34,020
organization as soon as the word UFO

898
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:39,770
came out yeah there isn't a chapter on

899
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:44,070
UFO contactees in psychology 101 you

900
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:46,890
know a primer no I don't think that that

901
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:51,920
happens and I understand that and then

902
00:46:59,900 --> 00:46:56,720
what I wanted to ask you next is the

903
00:47:02,090 --> 00:46:59,910
experiences that you were going through

904
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:02,100
up to that point I'm talking about

905
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:07,170
college were they physical were they in

906
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:11,850
a dream state how channeling you know

907
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:14,160
however how we're how are they happening

908
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:18,330
for you honestly there's such a huge

909
00:47:23,810 --> 00:47:21,390
variety of things that happened some

910
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:23,820
things happened in a waking State they

911
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:25,980
seemed I'm just kind of trying to go

912
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:27,690
chronologically in my mind to answer

913
00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:30,690
this question sure yeah I think they

914
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:32,550
sort of started off they were more

915
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:34,710
paranormal sensing these beings around

916
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:37,920
me there was interaction and eventually

917
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:39,330
what started happening was there were

918
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,650
there was a type where there was some

919
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:43,200
validation so I knew that this was

920
00:47:51,740 --> 00:47:48,090
something real I've had types that have

921
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:51,750
occurred in an out-of-body state where

922
00:47:59,359 --> 00:47:55,040
I'm having physiological sensations

923
00:48:03,050 --> 00:47:59,369
happening to my body and I am hearing a

924
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,060
group around me and they are interacting

925
00:48:08,359 --> 00:48:05,760
with me so there was a physical

926
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:08,369
component there it was a it was an

927
00:48:12,980 --> 00:48:10,170
out-of-body experience where I you know

928
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:12,990
I had all my cognitive faculties it

929
00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:16,770
seemed intact but I was in this state of

930
00:48:22,310 --> 00:48:19,950
euphoria that's that's another kind I've

931
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:22,320
had some where they've happened in

932
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:23,490
dreams

933
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:25,890
primarily I've had some where they begin

934
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:28,800
outside of the dream where you know

935
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:30,570
something is in your room and then you

936
00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:32,610
do something that is you act in an

937
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:34,710
unusual way that you wouldn't normally

938
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,570
you break your routines and you get into

939
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:38,640
bed and then boom you're asleep it

940
00:48:47,810 --> 00:48:44,000
continues in a dream I've had a fully

941
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:47,820
conscious situation where a being

942
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:53,760
appeared with a witness I have had so

943
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,710
there's a there's a real mix dream and

944
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:57,119
then there's the kind that I'm sure many

945
00:49:00,740 --> 00:48:58,290
of us have had where we're kind of in

946
00:49:04,340 --> 00:49:00,750
that in-between state hypnagogic state

947
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:04,350
when we are we're starting to wake up

948
00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:07,890
and something occurs in our room this

949
00:49:10,910 --> 00:49:09,060
could be in the middle of the night or

950
00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:10,920
for me for some reason this was

951
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:15,000
happening in the morning when I'm about

952
00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:17,610
to wake up I'm super close and there

953
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:19,980
were I couldn't see them but I could

954
00:49:28,849 --> 00:49:22,170
hear them perfectly talking over top of

955
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:28,859
me so there's such a range going on now

956
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:32,880
then and I find all of that interesting

957
00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:35,130
and the audience is listening and

958
00:49:38,780 --> 00:49:36,750
they're going down the check boxes yep

959
00:49:43,330 --> 00:49:38,790
that happened to me yep that I'm sure

960
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:43,340
yet I'm doing it myself right here so

961
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,859
and I read I collected I went out and

962
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:53,040
did everything that I could to to read

963
00:50:00,859 --> 00:49:57,330
what were some of the books that you

964
00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:00,869
went and researched and read I mean what

965
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:04,140
an interrupted journey or Betty

966
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:07,290
Andreessen did - you just go back to

967
00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:08,970
some of the early John Mack stuff what

968
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:11,640
did you what did you go and find well

969
00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:17,190
let's see to be honest I I did dabble in

970
00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:21,270
some of that in the beginning when it

971
00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:23,640
was more paranormal I was you know I was

972
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:25,980
dabbling those in those realms and I

973
00:50:31,970 --> 00:50:28,680
want I was always going to experience

974
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:31,980
all teachers because I wanted to learn

975
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:34,770
from them and I also wanted to you know

976
00:50:41,299 --> 00:50:36,930
build a framework and try and

977
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:41,309
feel safe with what was going on just

978
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:45,240
trying to think what else I went into

979
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,099
some channeling stuff I went into the

980
00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:50,160
set books hold on hold on hold on Tracy

981
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:53,339
hold on hold on hold on Ola that was one

982
00:51:00,940 --> 00:50:56,220
of the great comments I've heard anybody

983
00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:00,950
say you were trying to feel safe yeah I

984
00:51:06,620 --> 00:51:03,540
was I was and I'm sure a lot of other

985
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:06,630
people were too trying trying to feel

986
00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:08,819
safe but and trying to feel a build a

987
00:51:16,339 --> 00:51:13,670
framework because I mean something is

988
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:16,349
interacting with us we don't know if

989
00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:18,540
it's coming from another dimension I

990
00:51:21,230 --> 00:51:19,740
mean at the time I wasn't even thinking

991
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:21,240
about dimensions that you know or

992
00:51:26,540 --> 00:51:23,609
anything like that all I knew is

993
00:51:30,859 --> 00:51:26,550
something was interacting with me so I

994
00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:30,869
had no control over my life I had no

995
00:51:39,049 --> 00:51:35,430
people that I could talk to what do you

996
00:51:40,910 --> 00:51:39,059
do your this is a quite an interesting

997
00:51:43,789 --> 00:51:40,920
time in a person's life and yeah I know

998
00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:43,799
all these people listening oh yeah I've

999
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:45,780
gone through this as well but we are

1000
00:51:52,670 --> 00:51:48,540
we're trying to build a framework of

1001
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:52,680
control that makes us feel safe and

1002
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:55,530
allows us to carry on because you know

1003
00:51:59,720 --> 00:51:58,650
we're bracing we have to prepare for you

1004
00:52:04,700 --> 00:51:59,730
know what's going to happen in the

1005
00:52:08,569 --> 00:52:04,710
future and it has changed over time so

1006
00:52:13,089 --> 00:52:08,579
yeah trying to feel safe is a big deal

1007
00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:13,099
and as you as you started to not only

1008
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:17,579
seek out guidance and and other teachers

1009
00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:20,760
and stuff and and read about this were

1010
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:23,630
you finding some parallels and

1011
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:26,280
connection between your own experiences

1012
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:29,609
and what others were having out there

1013
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:32,970
which showed you that maybe you're just

1014
00:52:36,890 --> 00:52:35,520
not playing nuts you know which is

1015
00:52:41,299 --> 00:52:36,900
something that had to go through your

1016
00:52:42,890 --> 00:52:41,309
mind many times yeah I mean it was a it

1017
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:42,900
was a slow build again through

1018
00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:45,660
mediumship at the very beginning and the

1019
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:49,140
paranormal but yeah I did I did start to

1020
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:50,850
find other people

1021
00:52:56,810 --> 00:52:53,760
I did start to realize it was happening

1022
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:56,820
to others it felt so good honestly it

1023
00:53:01,100 --> 00:52:58,770
feels so good to find other people it's

1024
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:01,110
so good to find groups it's so good to

1025
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:04,110
find teachers and even when they don't

1026
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:06,690
fully resonate with you or you know it's

1027
00:53:14,810 --> 00:53:12,300
still good to go through that and take

1028
00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:14,820
what you need to help the ego feel safe

1029
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:19,500
that's right so yeah important and what

1030
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:24,510
does it do for you one as a psychology

1031
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:28,110
major first off and and second when

1032
00:53:34,850 --> 00:53:31,770
you're looking at the status quo where

1033
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:34,860
that picture and that dogma that is is

1034
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:37,170
painted for the world that everything is

1035
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:40,530
is quite normal there's nothing else to

1036
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:44,240
see here just move on live your life by

1037
00:53:52,220 --> 00:53:48,690
consume and work right just do yeah yeah

1038
00:53:55,370 --> 00:53:52,230
and and and surely that's the opposite

1039
00:53:57,620 --> 00:53:55,380
right that is not the case now you know

1040
00:54:00,800 --> 00:53:57,630
that the world is not what it seems

1041
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:00,810
right the consensus reality that we've

1042
00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:03,750
come that we grew up conditioned in and

1043
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:07,070
socialized in is not what it appears

1044
00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:10,920
it's not what it appears and so we

1045
00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:12,660
aren't living in the paradigm that we

1046
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:15,720
thought we were and how do we reconcile

1047
00:54:19,550 --> 00:54:16,130
that

1048
00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:19,560
did you ever we're gonna head towards a

1049
00:54:24,110 --> 00:54:21,990
break here in about three minutes did

1050
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,120
you ever find a teacher or a professor

1051
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:26,880
in school that you could confide in that

1052
00:54:35,710 --> 00:54:33,450
maybe understood this well no I did

1053
00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:35,720
actually but I I didn't so much in

1054
00:54:42,410 --> 00:54:38,460
psychology the International Studies

1055
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:42,420
part of my degree I did that through the

1056
00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:45,480
lens of a lot of anthropology or a world

1057
00:54:51,710 --> 00:54:48,270
religion and this type of thing there

1058
00:54:55,790 --> 00:54:51,720
was a professor in medical anthropology

1059
00:54:57,890 --> 00:54:55,800
that studies tribes around the world as

1060
00:55:03,470 --> 00:54:57,900
it pertains to medicine and compares it

1061
00:55:05,060 --> 00:55:03,480
to the Western world and she was amazing

1062
00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:05,070
you know because all of these tribes

1063
00:55:11,150 --> 00:55:06,780
around the world this is normal

1064
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,160
commonplace right the basis of all

1065
00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:13,680
healing and medicine is spiritual

1066
00:55:18,890 --> 00:55:16,350
balance and that means dealing with all

1067
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:18,900
of you know they believe in these

1068
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:21,810
entities they believe in they believe in

1069
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:22,530
all of this

1070
00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:26,640
so she's open to all of it so that is

1071
00:55:34,070 --> 00:55:29,880
where I found some solace and some peace

1072
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,080
and she actually encouraged me to study

1073
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:36,480
what I wanted so and to do and present

1074
00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:42,480
on what I wanted so I studied tibetan

1075
00:55:47,330 --> 00:55:45,300
dream yoga which is a form of lucid

1076
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:47,340
dreaming to learn more about you know

1077
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,119
what but that was all about and a whole

1078
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:53,280
variety of things but though that was

1079
00:55:57,830 --> 00:55:54,810
all through medical anthropology I was

1080
00:56:01,240 --> 00:55:57,840
so surprised that that that was where I

1081
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:01,250
found I could talk about these things

1082
00:56:07,580 --> 00:56:05,730
yeah yeah and so today and when we come

1083
00:56:09,650 --> 00:56:07,590
back we're gonna you know focus on a

1084
00:56:11,450 --> 00:56:09,660
couple of your experiences I don't want

1085
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:11,460
to discuss remote viewing too as well

1086
00:56:18,859 --> 00:56:15,750
but today how comfortable now are you

1087
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:18,869
you know with yourself when you hear

1088
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:21,090
about these other experiences or have us

1089
00:56:26,660 --> 00:56:23,970
you know these sightings or you know how

1090
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:26,670
comfortable are you I'll tell you how

1091
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:29,970
comfortable I am I I often have said you

1092
00:56:36,050 --> 00:56:32,250
know just see how far you can push me

1093
00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:36,060
it's I am so comfortable I am so

1094
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:37,380
comfortable because of what has happened

1095
00:56:47,210 --> 00:56:43,710
to me I will throw myself out there for

1096
00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:47,220
anyone who you know needs to talk about

1097
00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:50,760
these things I I've just I've done a lot

1098
00:56:56,330 --> 00:56:52,460
of exploring I've spent many years

1099
00:57:02,840 --> 00:56:56,340
reconciling this I I have had a lot

1100
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:02,850
happen so I I feel very solid and stable

1101
00:57:08,290 --> 00:57:05,520
I would say I've done enough research

1102
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:08,300
and gone through enough that my ego

1103
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:10,050
feels safe

1104
00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:12,930
and my framework feels good and stable

1105
00:57:17,090 --> 00:57:16,230
so you know so I'm not questioning

1106
00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:17,100
myself

1107
00:57:29,660 --> 00:57:26,070
I I know what happened and I I feel good

1108
00:57:31,610 --> 00:57:29,670
about it now so and when you go to we've

1109
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:31,620
got about one minute when you go to

1110
00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:35,850
conferences and you walk around you

1111
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:37,230
don't even have to say anything I'm

1112
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:39,930
saying when you walk around and you're

1113
00:57:45,620 --> 00:57:43,410
with others is it like the most

1114
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:45,630
comfortable coolest thing that you can

1115
00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:49,440
possibly experience oh yeah it is you

1116
00:57:54,290 --> 00:57:50,940
know I just want to say the very first

1117
00:57:56,810 --> 00:57:54,300
time I went to a UFO conference I came

1118
00:58:00,650 --> 00:57:56,820
away saying you know these were some of

1119
00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:00,660
the most open hearted people I'd ever

1120
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:04,380
met I just thought it was not even close

1121
00:58:07,550 --> 00:58:06,510
to some of the other paranormal ones I

1122
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:07,560
just thought these people have had

1123
00:58:14,420 --> 00:58:11,130
something so fantastic changed their

1124
00:58:17,810 --> 00:58:14,430
whole worldview and and they're just

1125
00:58:20,810 --> 00:58:17,820
these unique open-hearted beings who are

1126
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:20,820
so willing to share and so I loved them

1127
00:58:27,860 --> 00:58:23,810
right away for that exact reason yeah I

1128
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:27,870
experienced the same thing in that I

1129
00:58:33,020 --> 00:58:31,110
know individually don't not not the

1130
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:33,030
collective but when you go down you know

1131
00:58:36,370 --> 00:58:34,530
not the my you know let's go to the

1132
00:58:39,650 --> 00:58:36,380
micro side of it when you go to the

1133
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:39,660
individuals there is something so

1134
00:58:45,470 --> 00:58:43,410
profound an emotional and personal that

1135
00:58:49,250 --> 00:58:45,480
has happened in each one of their lives

1136
00:58:52,220 --> 00:58:49,260
that they are there and that's that's

1137
00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:52,230
what I find to be the most remarkable

1138
00:58:56,780 --> 00:58:55,260
and that's what I respect the most yeah

1139
00:58:59,450 --> 00:58:56,790
I love that one of my favorite things

1140
00:59:00,890 --> 00:58:59,460
was always sitting down at a table you

1141
00:59:02,780 --> 00:59:00,900
know filled with all strangers because I

1142
00:59:04,940 --> 00:59:02,790
used to go to them by myself always

1143
00:59:09,380 --> 00:59:04,950
right and just saying what brought you

1144
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:09,390
here I do it all you know and people who

1145
00:59:15,260 --> 00:59:11,310
were shy who were going I always said

1146
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:15,270
you know never assume always ask that of

1147
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:17,370
the person beside you you you you won't

1148
00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:19,890
believe what's going on in that person's

1149
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:21,990
world and they're just being quiet about

1150
00:59:28,370 --> 00:59:24,570
it so ask them yeah that's my favorite

1151
00:59:29,780 --> 00:59:28,380
thing so why you here bro let's take a

1152
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:29,790
break right here trace

1153
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:32,010
and when we come back we're gonna go I

1154
00:59:36,580 --> 00:59:34,530
wanted to discuss remote viewing well

1155
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:36,590
and we've got a couple of other little

1156
00:59:40,580 --> 00:59:38,850
experiences that you've gone through I

1157
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:40,590
want to go through all of that for the

1158
00:59:46,070 --> 00:59:43,650
audience tonight I'm introducing Tracy

1159
00:59:47,690 --> 00:59:46,080
Garbett to you this is fade to black

1160
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:47,700
I'm your host Amy Church more of Tracy

1161
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:49,410
right after this short break stay with

1162
01:00:11,559 --> 00:59:49,760
us

1163
01:00:13,479 --> 01:00:11,569
this is fade to black

1164
01:00:17,170 --> 01:00:13,489
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

1165
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:17,180
radio network and kgr a the global radio

1166
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:21,410
alliance this is kg are a digital

1167
01:00:27,940 --> 01:00:24,529
broadcasting station Salt Lake City Utah

1168
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:27,950
Van Buren Arkansas does your basement or

1169
01:00:31,779 --> 01:00:30,049
crawlspace have a damp musty smell well

1170
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:31,789
watch out that's a sign of too much

1171
01:00:35,799 --> 01:00:33,950
moisture and not enough ventilation and

1172
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:35,809
that can mean increased mold growth and

1173
01:00:40,180 --> 01:00:37,910
the build-up of harmful toxins and gases

1174
01:00:42,339 --> 01:00:40,190
don't bother with a dehumidifier it just

1175
01:00:44,140 --> 01:00:42,349
circulates the same unhealthy air now

1176
01:00:45,999 --> 01:00:44,150
there's a better way to remove these

1177
01:00:48,370 --> 01:00:46,009
dangers and odors it's with the

1178
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computerized wave moisture control unit

1179
01:00:51,819 --> 01:00:50,210
that reduces moisture and expels

1180
01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:51,829
pollutants we replaced our old

1181
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:53,839
dehumidifier with the wave unit and in

1182
01:00:58,479 --> 01:00:56,089
only three weeks our basement is dry and

1183
01:01:00,460 --> 01:00:58,489
the musty smell is gone wave units

1184
01:01:02,890 --> 01:01:00,470
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1185
01:01:04,809 --> 01:01:02,900
water or filters and costs only pennies

1186
01:01:06,579 --> 01:01:04,819
a day to run breathe better live

1187
01:01:09,009 --> 01:01:06,589
healthier with an affordable no

1188
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,019
maintenance wave unit call eight eight

1189
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:11,359
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1190
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:14,690
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1191
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:23,240
we own solutions

1192
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:36,160
hi this is Ray sobs here reppin the

1193
01:01:41,020 --> 01:01:38,030
planet and you're listening to my good

1194
01:01:43,570 --> 01:01:41,030
friend Jimmy Church fade to black

1195
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:43,580
on the GameChanger network and the kgr a

1196
01:01:50,290 --> 01:01:48,170
digital broadcast station this is Toby

1197
01:02:08,130 --> 01:01:50,300
Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

1198
01:02:12,790 --> 01:02:10,990
revolution this is Micah Hanks of the

1199
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:12,800
graylien report and you're listening to

1200
01:02:17,020 --> 01:02:15,170
Jimmy church on fade to black across the

1201
01:02:19,660 --> 01:02:17,030
globe on the GameChanger radio network

1202
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:19,670
and the one and only kgr a radio the

1203
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:20,690
planet

1204
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:40,350
[Music]

1205
01:02:45,210 --> 01:02:42,610
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

1206
01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:45,220
Neil Shubin church from the game-changer

1207
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:48,550
network in kg RA the planets and follow

1208
01:02:54,330 --> 01:02:50,380
me on Twitter come join the conversation

1209
01:02:57,420 --> 01:02:54,340
right now at J church radio I guess

1210
01:02:59,880 --> 01:02:57,430
tonight Tracey Garbett and I'm

1211
01:03:00,750 --> 01:02:59,890
introducing her to the world tonight

1212
01:03:02,370 --> 01:03:00,760
idea

1213
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:02,380
Tracey I'm just so excited this is so

1214
01:03:08,820 --> 01:03:05,050
cool and I hope you're having as much

1215
01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:08,830
fun as I am now a degree in psychology

1216
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:14,230
and which I find fascinating because you

1217
01:03:22,770 --> 01:03:17,920
are going to share a story with us where

1218
01:03:26,820 --> 01:03:22,780
you encounter something somebody but

1219
01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:26,830
with a witness so before we get into the

1220
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:30,580
details set us up what was going on when

1221
01:03:36,270 --> 01:03:34,450
this happened okay so well okay pretty

1222
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:36,280
straightforward

1223
01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:38,770
but I will just say this did not happen

1224
01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:41,830
in a dream we did not have a glass of

1225
01:03:47,330 --> 01:03:45,340
wine this was not late at night there

1226
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:47,340
was nothing going on I'm hanging out

1227
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:51,250
with my friend sitting on a couch

1228
01:03:59,810 --> 01:03:53,730
everything is just normal

1229
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:06,990
we are watching a documentary and the

1230
01:04:16,770 --> 01:04:11,110
next thing I know I will describe this

1231
01:04:19,170 --> 01:04:16,780
the best I can I was aware of being what

1232
01:04:22,850 --> 01:04:19,180
I described as inside myself like kind

1233
01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:22,860
of frozen inside myself with these two

1234
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:25,270
fighting thoughts going on this one

1235
01:04:33,350 --> 01:04:30,000
saying I just saw that that and this and

1236
01:04:37,380 --> 01:04:33,360
realizing that I had just seen this tall

1237
01:04:40,380 --> 01:04:37,390
hooded dark figure that was seven feet

1238
01:04:42,930 --> 01:04:40,390
tall and this other part of me fighting

1239
01:04:44,790 --> 01:04:42,940
saying no it was a projection of the TV

1240
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:44,800
so it was like I was frozen I it was

1241
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:48,070
like I couldn't move and I was just part

1242
01:04:51,570 --> 01:04:49,450
of my brain was trying to write it off

1243
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:51,580
and a part of my brain was pushing

1244
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:53,680
through and then when I finally sort of

1245
01:04:58,410 --> 01:04:54,130
bro

1246
01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:58,420
out of this I don't know Kyle to spend I

1247
01:05:02,969 --> 01:05:00,880
was like no I saw that and I looked at

1248
01:05:05,549 --> 01:05:02,979
my friend sitting beside me who just

1249
01:05:08,059 --> 01:05:05,559
looked like she was in this frozen state

1250
01:05:10,289 --> 01:05:08,069
you know I grab her and say her name and

1251
01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:10,299
she's like oh my gosh I thought that was

1252
01:05:16,890 --> 01:05:14,079
a projection of the TV and we get up and

1253
01:05:20,849 --> 01:05:16,900
of course we both we both saw this you

1254
01:05:22,620 --> 01:05:20,859
know roughly 7 foot tall hooded figure

1255
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:22,630
we remembered the exact same things and

1256
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:24,910
we cannot fill in the exact same thing

1257
01:05:34,049 --> 01:05:29,710
so it was it was a dark looking hooded

1258
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:34,059
figure it flashed the way we remember it

1259
01:05:39,539 --> 01:05:36,970
flashed like a slow flash in front of it

1260
01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:39,549
in front of us but there I mean we saw

1261
01:05:46,769 --> 01:05:44,049
that thing and but we cannot make out

1262
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:46,779
what the face looked like or the the

1263
01:05:52,650 --> 01:05:50,799
body in the middle we have never been

1264
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:52,660
able to but here are the things I've

1265
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:53,890
been thinking you know because this

1266
01:06:01,069 --> 01:05:56,319
happened years ago now and we didn't

1267
01:06:04,289 --> 01:06:01,079
talk about it forever but it was like

1268
01:06:06,749 --> 01:06:04,299
there's a sensation that you have when

1269
01:06:08,459 --> 01:06:06,759
you know something is about to happen

1270
01:06:11,069 --> 01:06:08,469
I've had other experiences and I'm sure

1271
01:06:12,839 --> 01:06:11,079
you have and other people have and we've

1272
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:12,849
seen this in random number generators

1273
01:06:17,759 --> 01:06:14,950
that we actually do know that before

1274
01:06:20,130 --> 01:06:17,769
things happen something in us feels that

1275
01:06:24,289 --> 01:06:20,140
or we've seen it with animals too

1276
01:06:28,529 --> 01:06:24,299
the the sense with this for me is that

1277
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:28,539
we came to at the end of an experience I

1278
01:06:34,430 --> 01:06:31,450
felt like I was coming out of something

1279
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:34,440
I I feel like there's a whole part

1280
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:39,729
missing and this was just breaking back

1281
01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:43,450
into sort of waking conscious reality at

1282
01:06:51,390 --> 01:06:48,430
the end of it so this was the conscious

1283
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:51,400
encounter I had with a witness well okay

1284
01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:53,440
a couple of questions really quickly

1285
01:07:01,680 --> 01:06:54,729
this is pretty amazing

1286
01:07:04,469 --> 01:07:01,690
how far away from you I would say eight

1287
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:04,479
eight feet eight yeah eight feet roughly

1288
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:08,410
to close actually okay so

1289
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:10,870
and you you said that you were watching

1290
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:15,010
a documentary so was this to the left or

1291
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:19,510
to the right of the television no it was

1292
01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:24,300
this is another thing it was directly in

1293
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:26,500
perfectly in our line of vision

1294
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:29,650
perfectly which tells me I mean I don't

1295
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:31,210
know for sure I'm speculating of course

1296
01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:34,300
but that makes me think you know if

1297
01:07:40,050 --> 01:07:38,200
these uber intelligent beings have all

1298
01:07:41,370 --> 01:07:40,060
the choices of what what they can do

1299
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:41,380
them what they can leave us with that

1300
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:43,170
tells me there's some sort of intention

1301
01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:46,480
for us to see it the fact that it was so

1302
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:49,120
directly in between us in the TV this is

1303
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:52,000
my own interpretation and hers you know

1304
01:07:56,910 --> 01:07:53,470
how crazy this sounds

1305
01:08:01,170 --> 01:07:56,920
this is amazing to go through this okay

1306
01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:01,180
so and so I'm understanding here little

1307
01:08:08,190 --> 01:08:05,740
recap you go you've you phase out right

1308
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:08,200
you're you go through this thing maybe

1309
01:08:12,030 --> 01:08:09,310
some butterflies in the stomach

1310
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:12,040
something an event is about to happen

1311
01:08:17,730 --> 01:08:15,640
and then directly in front of you eight

1312
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:17,740
feet out in front of you between you and

1313
01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:22,560
the television this seven foot being

1314
01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:25,630
appears in front of you yeah that's

1315
01:08:30,269 --> 01:08:27,940
right I and you know what the craziest

1316
01:08:35,340 --> 01:08:30,279
thing is I mean but it's common you know

1317
01:08:38,190 --> 01:08:35,350
we now know in in this in this realm of

1318
01:08:41,730 --> 01:08:38,200
things we didn't talk about this forever

1319
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:41,740
and and then when we finally did start

1320
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:46,210
talking about it a couple years ago it's

1321
01:08:53,700 --> 01:08:49,810
a perfect setup for hypnotic regression

1322
01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:53,710
and I'm open to it she's open to it I

1323
01:08:58,170 --> 01:08:55,839
have intended to do it but I just never

1324
01:08:59,849 --> 01:08:58,180
do it it's it's really funny it's this

1325
01:09:03,150 --> 01:08:59,859
thing that keeps pushing away and she's

1326
01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:03,160
you know often said to me if I didn't

1327
01:09:07,559 --> 01:09:05,830
have you I probably my brain feels like

1328
01:09:09,390 --> 01:09:07,569
it would have just pushed it away to a

1329
01:09:11,519 --> 01:09:09,400
place where it doesn't even exist yeah

1330
01:09:13,170 --> 01:09:11,529
and and that's true that's why I feel so

1331
01:09:16,440 --> 01:09:13,180
lucky that we have each other we keep

1332
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:16,450
coming back to that know that was there

1333
01:09:27,020 --> 01:09:20,640
you know that thing was there yeah

1334
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:27,030
I'll give you my advice no regression no

1335
01:09:34,970 --> 01:09:31,710
no and I don't want to know okay let me

1336
01:09:36,350 --> 01:09:34,980
tell you this let me say this and this

1337
01:09:40,340 --> 01:09:36,360
is something we do in remote viewing and

1338
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:40,350
we can talk about later but very used to

1339
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:44,370
you know probing yourself for questions

1340
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,960
so one would be if there was a scale of

1341
01:09:52,970 --> 01:09:50,640
how did it

1342
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:52,980
what was the residual feeling that you

1343
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:55,920
had you know was it on negative to

1344
01:09:59,690 --> 01:09:58,320
neutral to positive and both of us said

1345
01:10:02,120 --> 01:09:59,700
it was sort of sat on the scale between

1346
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:02,130
neutral to positive there was there was

1347
01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:05,910
no now that could just be cognitive

1348
01:10:14,540 --> 01:10:09,120
hijacking I realized that's absolutely a

1349
01:10:15,860 --> 01:10:14,550
possibility but um I don't know I you

1350
01:10:18,260 --> 01:10:15,870
know sometimes you just have a feeling

1351
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:18,270
about things and I could be wrong but it

1352
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:22,980
is one that I do intend to dig into at

1353
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:26,250
some point well I would like to we'll

1354
01:10:32,090 --> 01:10:30,450
see we'll see okay could you I'll help

1355
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:32,100
you with that decision right now could

1356
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:35,910
you see could you see through them did

1357
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:38,970
you see the TV I'm through no it was no

1358
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:41,930
one's ever asked me that before no solid

1359
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:43,170
solid

1360
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:46,530
oh that's just not right yeah did yeah

1361
01:10:54,590 --> 01:10:51,570
okay was there anything in your family

1362
01:10:57,170 --> 01:10:54,600
or hers did anybody just recently pass

1363
01:11:02,720 --> 01:10:57,180
away was there anything like that that

1364
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:02,730
oh no you know before this I had such a

1365
01:11:08,890 --> 01:11:05,970
long history of that type of visitation

1366
01:11:13,550 --> 01:11:08,900
mm-hmm and I gotta say there is a

1367
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:13,560
completely different feel of this nobody

1368
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:15,600
had passed away and I have had

1369
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:19,110
experiences with that there is this

1370
01:11:27,740 --> 01:11:25,110
different feel in the intent this is my

1371
01:11:31,730 --> 01:11:27,750
interpretation that it's more it was

1372
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:31,740
more business II more business isn't

1373
01:11:40,730 --> 01:11:38,600
serious yeah deliberate yeah serious and

1374
01:11:44,930 --> 01:11:40,740
deliberate yeah right right it was done

1375
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:44,940
for you and for her too as well and you

1376
01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:47,130
know we often have wondered as did it

1377
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:49,320
occur because you know is there some

1378
01:11:52,970 --> 01:11:51,090
significance of the two of us being

1379
01:11:54,350 --> 01:11:52,980
together because we we don't get

1380
01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:54,360
together very often you know maybe there

1381
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:56,520
wasn't we could be reading into it but

1382
01:12:02,300 --> 01:11:58,050
we you know it's it's a fair question

1383
01:12:05,570 --> 01:12:02,310
how how long was he there I'm saying he

1384
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:05,580
I'm assuming yeah I know we really don't

1385
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:08,310
know really don't know we would just be

1386
01:12:19,940 --> 01:12:11,610
speculating I honestly believe that that

1387
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:19,950
was a trace left yeah could be could be

1388
01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:21,930
I don't know what yeah everything is

1389
01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:24,120
speculation you know we could theorize

1390
01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:28,440
all day long that's my feeling is that

1391
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:30,510
that was sort of a trace image of a

1392
01:12:34,430 --> 01:12:32,610
larger experience I didn't I wasn't sure

1393
01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:34,440
about that before but you know I've

1394
01:12:42,260 --> 01:12:38,580
reflected on it a lot as a you know in

1395
01:12:45,740 --> 01:12:42,270
the last year and I I do think that that

1396
01:12:48,650 --> 01:12:45,750
was a larger experience so that's that's

1397
01:12:52,060 --> 01:12:48,660
just it could be so many different than

1398
01:12:54,050 --> 01:12:52,070
it could be like some crazy

1399
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:54,060
interdimensional parallel world

1400
01:13:01,820 --> 01:12:56,760
colliding thing it's just phased in and

1401
01:13:04,730 --> 01:13:01,830
phased out you know yeah yeah there's et

1402
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:04,740
there's other but could even be you know

1403
01:13:10,670 --> 01:13:07,730
us in another dimension

1404
01:13:15,470 --> 01:13:10,680
future selves other selves simultaneous

1405
01:13:17,690 --> 01:13:15,480
elves there's so many possibilities you

1406
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:17,700
guys weren't doing Ouija earlier and

1407
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:20,880
then I were you know last time I did

1408
01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:23,850
that I was 11 at my birthday party and

1409
01:13:29,690 --> 01:13:27,870
every kid went screaming left screaming

1410
01:13:33,500 --> 01:13:29,700
from my house and I never touched

1411
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:33,510
anything like that till way later even

1412
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:35,610
when my experiences started really

1413
01:13:42,140 --> 01:13:39,600
really in early adulthood I I didn't

1414
01:13:43,970 --> 01:13:42,150
want anyone to say the word psychic to

1415
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:43,980
me I used to keep lights on everywhere

1416
01:13:47,580 --> 01:13:46,110
had radios on all the time because I

1417
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:47,590
wanted to block this

1418
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:50,170
stuff out and I finally broke down and

1419
01:13:54,180 --> 01:13:52,450
pulled him out an alternative magazine

1420
01:13:55,530 --> 01:13:54,190
and found a psychic and said I don't

1421
01:13:56,940 --> 01:13:55,540
want a reading just tell me what to do

1422
01:13:59,880 --> 01:13:56,950
you know it was like that I didn't I

1423
01:14:02,700 --> 01:13:59,890
didn't want any of that stuff around me

1424
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:02,710
so yeah I did you know myself and so

1425
01:14:06,990 --> 01:14:05,230
many of the listeners right now I've

1426
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:07,000
gone through the same thing I did ten

1427
01:14:12,990 --> 01:14:11,050
years of of lights on and TV on all

1428
01:14:14,940 --> 01:14:13,000
night I mean I just I didn't know how

1429
01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:14,950
else to deal with it but that's the way

1430
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:18,430
and it continues to this day I yeah I I

1431
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:20,710
still have a problem with it as well

1432
01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:23,110
it's a little bit better I mean it it

1433
01:14:30,780 --> 01:14:26,830
was really bad for a long time where if

1434
01:14:32,460 --> 01:14:30,790
I was alone alone I would have to put

1435
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:32,470
lights on you know there were times

1436
01:14:36,030 --> 01:14:33,370
where I lived in a house with the

1437
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:36,040
basement and different floors and you

1438
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:39,130
know I've moved a lot but I would have

1439
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:42,640
to have lights on on every floor and

1440
01:14:48,270 --> 01:14:45,850
still you know I would prefer to have

1441
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:48,280
somebody with me yeah Rita is it's so

1442
01:14:52,830 --> 01:14:49,810
funny I want to leave the lights on

1443
01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:52,840
downstairs upstairs you know and I at

1444
01:14:57,330 --> 01:14:55,390
night and she forces me to turn them off

1445
01:15:00,480 --> 01:14:57,340
and it's like you know who is somebody

1446
01:15:02,250 --> 01:15:00,490
with OCD you don't you know you just

1447
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:02,260
can't they're gonna do what they and

1448
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:05,710
they're uncomfortable if they can't do

1449
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:09,010
what they need to do and I need the

1450
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:12,310
lights on so Rita goes to New York over

1451
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:14,800
Christmas with our daughter Deana for a

1452
01:15:21,810 --> 01:15:16,930
vacation they're out there for ten days

1453
01:15:25,650 --> 01:15:21,820
I had ten days of lights on all my ten

1454
01:15:31,620 --> 01:15:25,660
days of TV all night long ten days yeah

1455
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:31,630
and I slept like a baby that's the thing

1456
01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:33,250
for me too

1457
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:35,860
in the past whenever my partner at the

1458
01:15:41,610 --> 01:15:38,410
time is gone away oh my god that TV's on

1459
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:41,620
all night I can't sleep at all I'm

1460
01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:43,600
backed up in a corner sometimes I'll

1461
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:47,140
stay on the couch you know but and then

1462
01:15:52,230 --> 01:15:49,330
I'll have of course the penetration of

1463
01:15:55,980 --> 01:15:52,240
the the TV whatever's on late in my

1464
01:15:57,450 --> 01:15:55,990
dreams it's when I finally fall asleep

1465
01:16:00,090 --> 01:15:57,460
at four o'clock in the morning oh it

1466
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:00,100
messes me up yeah it definitely messes

1467
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:01,150
me up and

1468
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:02,710
cent and I'm sure a lot of people out

1469
01:16:05,729 --> 01:16:05,440
there do too it's so funny and I'm okay

1470
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:05,739
with it

1471
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:10,090
like Rita will uh Rita just and tweeter

1472
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:14,830
texted me cry me a river but so I'll

1473
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:17,110
always try to you know you know Rita is

1474
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:18,489
turning off the lights now like well

1475
01:16:23,939 --> 01:16:20,530
let's leave one little one on she's why

1476
01:16:28,770 --> 01:16:23,949
the dogs need to see in the dark you

1477
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:28,780
know whatever yeah I did that too as

1478
01:16:33,149 --> 01:16:31,090
well not everyone only when there's

1479
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:33,159
someone else there if there's no one

1480
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,199
else there night lights won't they're

1481
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:37,840
not enough there's no way see everybody

1482
01:16:44,340 --> 01:16:42,489
your normal normal whatever honestly

1483
01:16:47,790 --> 01:16:44,350
whatever it takes to make the ego feel

1484
01:16:51,209 --> 01:16:47,800
safe but I did do hypnotherapy for that

1485
01:16:55,020 --> 01:16:51,219
that helped reduce it a little bit I

1486
01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:55,030
will say yeah I see and I what I did was

1487
01:17:00,030 --> 01:16:57,070
probably the wrong thing to do I just I

1488
01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:00,040
studied more you know I went more into

1489
01:17:06,930 --> 01:17:04,390
it more into it and in some ways it

1490
01:17:09,930 --> 01:17:06,940
freaked me it continued the freakout it

1491
01:17:12,330 --> 01:17:09,940
didn't really help but I also as I

1492
01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:12,340
researched and I recommend this for

1493
01:17:15,780 --> 01:17:14,140
everybody just to know that it's

1494
01:17:18,209 --> 01:17:15,790
happening you're not the only one

1495
01:17:21,330 --> 01:17:18,219
you know it's happening out there and

1496
01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:21,340
it's oh it's okay well it's not okay but

1497
01:17:26,070 --> 01:17:24,340
it's okay you just find out and and try

1498
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:26,080
to reach out and talk to once I started

1499
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:27,850
talking about a Tracy I just I haven't

1500
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:30,730
shut up and I haven't shut up sighs but

1501
01:17:34,770 --> 01:17:33,280
it is I mean you know it is really great

1502
01:17:36,959 --> 01:17:34,780
to have people that you can talk to

1503
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:36,969
about it and you know it's so wonderful

1504
01:17:43,050 --> 01:17:39,810
that there's this big group of listeners

1505
01:17:44,850 --> 01:17:43,060
that in particular meet each other at

1506
01:17:49,380 --> 01:17:44,860
conferences you know I've definitely

1507
01:17:51,570 --> 01:17:49,390
seen that happen at your shows and and

1508
01:17:54,510 --> 01:17:51,580
at the conferences and I just think it's

1509
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:54,520
so important and we need that we need

1510
01:17:59,700 --> 01:17:58,000
each other yeah when I what I thought

1511
01:18:02,580 --> 01:17:59,710
was really fascinating when I started to

1512
01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:02,590
share some of my experiences on this

1513
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:06,159
show I I got to the point where I just

1514
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:08,050
don't care anymore and I don't care I

1515
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:09,730
don't care I don't care what people

1516
01:18:13,770 --> 01:18:12,250
think what people think about what I

1517
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:13,780
have except

1518
01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:16,570
I want to I don't give a bleep what they

1519
01:18:22,650 --> 01:18:19,660
care about I honestly don't care about

1520
01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:22,660
what has happened with that as I have

1521
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:24,910
people come up to me all the time or

1522
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:26,770
call into this show or send me an email

1523
01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:28,840
that says you know what I went through

1524
01:18:32,970 --> 01:18:31,150
that same exact thing can I share it

1525
01:18:34,770 --> 01:18:32,980
with you and then I'll get the long

1526
01:18:37,620 --> 01:18:34,780
email or I get the long phone call I'll

1527
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:37,630
get the the great experience in person

1528
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:39,280
and and we'll talk through it and

1529
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:42,489
they'll always say the exact same thing

1530
01:18:45,930 --> 01:18:44,170
over and over again I've never talked

1531
01:18:48,510 --> 01:18:45,940
about this before you know

1532
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:48,520
but you haven't enabled me you have

1533
01:18:54,150 --> 01:18:51,040
empowered me to just go out and talk

1534
01:18:56,580 --> 01:18:54,160
about it and what a relief it is it's

1535
01:18:58,500 --> 01:18:56,590
it's you know it's a burden that you

1536
01:19:00,810 --> 01:18:58,510
have just you know people are walking

1537
01:19:03,500 --> 01:19:00,820
around like yourself Tracy they walk

1538
01:19:06,959 --> 01:19:03,510
around with luggage hanging off of them

1539
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:06,969
serious bags just you know holding them

1540
01:19:12,540 --> 01:19:09,760
down start to conscious yeah just start

1541
01:19:14,670 --> 01:19:12,550
cutting that and into your you're not

1542
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:14,680
you know you're not in a big tank of

1543
01:19:19,229 --> 01:19:16,480
molasses anymore you're not being held

1544
01:19:20,940 --> 01:19:19,239
back yeah so let's talk about remote

1545
01:19:26,150 --> 01:19:20,950
viewing before we get to one at the

1546
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:26,160
bottom of the hour for remote viewing

1547
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:30,610
well for me is real I I don't need

1548
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:33,810
convincing of that but I did have

1549
01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:37,510
something happened five years ago with a

1550
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:38,980
remote viewer out there and I just

1551
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:42,850
happened to it was a remote view about

1552
01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:47,410
me and I happened to stumble upon this

1553
01:19:52,620 --> 01:19:49,900
on YouTube when it was like seven views

1554
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:52,630
right and it was just a lucky thing and

1555
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:56,290
there it was but the point is I watched

1556
01:20:00,780 --> 01:19:58,570
this remote viewer go through everything

1557
01:20:02,850 --> 01:20:00,790
and in the end open up the envelope I

1558
01:20:04,530 --> 01:20:02,860
watched all the drawings and all the

1559
01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:04,540
development of this was like an

1560
01:20:11,220 --> 01:20:07,600
hour-long remote view with an overhead

1561
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:11,230
camera and him drying slowly zeroing in

1562
01:20:18,510 --> 01:20:15,370
on what was the Malibu underwater base

1563
01:20:21,330 --> 01:20:18,520
and it was a photograph that I had

1564
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:21,340
published on the net with my original

1565
01:20:26,220 --> 01:20:23,890
article about it but this remote viewer

1566
01:20:30,150 --> 01:20:26,230
didn't know and in the envelope

1567
01:20:32,940 --> 01:20:30,160
was this image and that said Jimmy

1568
01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:32,950
Church radio.com on the bottom of the

1569
01:20:42,570 --> 01:20:36,760
image so I'm watching this and and when

1570
01:20:45,330 --> 01:20:42,580
I saw what ended up how do I want to say

1571
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:45,340
that resolved when I saw it resolved and

1572
01:20:52,140 --> 01:20:47,920
I saw the envelope open I want okay

1573
01:20:55,170 --> 01:20:52,150
there is the it was validation for me

1574
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:55,180
that remote viewing was a real science

1575
01:21:00,720 --> 01:20:58,090
but also it was tied to me and I knew

1576
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:00,730
what was actually going on here and I

1577
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:03,310
saw the development of it fascinating

1578
01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:07,270
for you yeah yeah for you what what how

1579
01:21:11,490 --> 01:21:10,000
did you get into remote viewing well it

1580
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:11,500
was it's actually part of what I was

1581
01:21:16,710 --> 01:21:14,560
mentioning before I was really just

1582
01:21:19,979 --> 01:21:16,720
trying to make sense of the things that

1583
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:19,989
were happening I was having visions my

1584
01:21:24,420 --> 01:21:22,000
sister kind of has dreams I have visions

1585
01:21:26,030 --> 01:21:24,430
they just happened and you know I could

1586
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:26,040
just move my head to the side and

1587
01:21:30,810 --> 01:21:28,810
there's what I call an overlay or I

1588
01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:30,820
would just blink my eyes or shut my eyes

1589
01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:32,710
and I would see all of these different

1590
01:21:40,130 --> 01:21:35,590
things and I got into remote viewing

1591
01:21:42,810 --> 01:21:40,140
just to try to build framework and just

1592
01:21:45,150 --> 01:21:42,820
you know figure out what's going out

1593
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:45,160
with my what's going on with my mind

1594
01:21:52,220 --> 01:21:49,930
I again it was part of when I felt a

1595
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:52,230
little bit safer a little bit of

1596
01:21:58,290 --> 01:21:55,600
experimenting what what is this why is

1597
01:22:02,880 --> 01:21:58,300
my mind showing me this should what do I

1598
01:22:05,610 --> 01:22:02,890
do with this it was just so random I

1599
01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:05,620
just have all these random things come

1600
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:07,780
in and I just wanted to get some control

1601
01:22:14,250 --> 01:22:11,170
of it and see you know I thought maybe

1602
01:22:15,420 --> 01:22:14,260
you know if this is happening maybe

1603
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:15,430
there's something I'm supposed to do

1604
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:18,190
with it so remote viewing was one way

1605
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:21,370
for me to just investigate my own mind

1606
01:22:28,890 --> 01:22:25,090
which I now I feel is so important I'm

1607
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:28,900
I'm so into that and doing that in many

1608
01:22:39,690 --> 01:22:34,960
different ways okay so then you decide

1609
01:22:43,380 --> 01:22:39,700
to learn yeah I decide to learn

1610
01:22:46,670 --> 01:22:43,390
I had a teacher in Canada Paul elder who

1611
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:46,680
works for the Monroe Institute and we

1612
01:22:54,510 --> 01:22:50,370
did all of these levels and AM you know

1613
01:23:00,240 --> 01:22:54,520
it is something else it is something

1614
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:00,250
else when you yourself perceive

1615
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:05,410
something so far away so unusual and you

1616
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:09,910
see for this example is through somebody

1617
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:14,890
else's eyes and all of their senses what

1618
01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:16,600
they are experiencing in their

1619
01:23:23,130 --> 01:23:20,710
environment when you have something like

1620
01:23:24,990 --> 01:23:23,140
that happen to you I mean not even

1621
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:25,000
trying to prove anything to anybody else

1622
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:29,050
when you do that yourself somewhere

1623
01:23:34,860 --> 01:23:31,990
that's thousands of miles away you know

1624
01:23:35,940 --> 01:23:34,870
that you got everything wrong totally

1625
01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:35,950
totally totally

1626
01:23:40,860 --> 01:23:38,440
you've got everything wrong and you

1627
01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:40,870
gotta go and you got a reassess reality

1628
01:23:46,350 --> 01:23:43,270
and everybody else does too for that

1629
01:23:53,070 --> 01:23:50,940
help me understand I think that I'm sort

1630
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:53,080
of referring to here well we're gonna do

1631
01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:55,930
that but we're gonna hit towards a break

1632
01:23:59,730 --> 01:23:57,490
so we can do this when we come back but

1633
01:24:03,020 --> 01:23:59,740
I want to understand what you're

1634
01:24:07,860 --> 01:24:03,030
suggesting here so you're saying that

1635
01:24:09,150 --> 01:24:07,870
you're you're in your remote viewing and

1636
01:24:12,330 --> 01:24:09,160
certainly with this one that we're going

1637
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:12,340
to talk about you were in somebody

1638
01:24:19,620 --> 01:24:15,910
else's POV in somebody else's point of

1639
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:19,630
view and you are experiencing all of

1640
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:24,010
their senses as well as if it was you

1641
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:27,040
that were there you know it's not only

1642
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:30,330
that it goes beyond that

1643
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:33,370
sensing everything they're sensing but

1644
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:35,920
you'll hear when I describe it you might

1645
01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:39,520
hear better what I what I mean there is

1646
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:43,030
a sensory part of it that goes even it

1647
01:24:49,770 --> 01:24:46,570
seems to go even beyond that person it

1648
01:24:50,910 --> 01:24:49,780
begins from the point of that person

1649
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:50,920
it's wild

1650
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:53,010
now if

1651
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:56,489
if if some1 okay look I'm gonna go right

1652
01:25:03,320 --> 01:24:59,760
I'm gonna go there what if something

1653
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:03,330
like this happened and it was a crime

1654
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:06,930
that was being committed or a sexual act

1655
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:10,970
or an act of terror or you know

1656
01:25:19,070 --> 01:25:15,440
something else what do you do with that

1657
01:25:22,729 --> 01:25:19,080
well in this situation it's set up in in

1658
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:22,739
yeah it's it's set up so you know it's a

1659
01:25:26,930 --> 01:25:25,410
controlled most of the time it's a

1660
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:26,940
controlled environment I mean some of

1661
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:29,790
the targets were doing I don't exactly

1662
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:32,489
know you know you don't know what's

1663
01:25:36,830 --> 01:25:34,080
happening with them that I don't know

1664
01:25:38,690 --> 01:25:36,840
the root of who exactly was putting them

1665
01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:38,700
out there so I haven't come across

1666
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:41,880
something like a crime well I don't know

1667
01:25:45,890 --> 01:25:44,250
I've had I've had one that would be

1668
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:45,900
questionable but we never got our

1669
01:25:50,510 --> 01:25:47,489
results were sent away and we never got

1670
01:25:52,340 --> 01:25:50,520
them back so we rarely hear your back I

1671
01:25:53,690 --> 01:25:52,350
mean things when we were being trained

1672
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:53,700
yes we would hear back but there was

1673
01:25:59,180 --> 01:25:56,130
certain stuff in the master level that

1674
01:26:01,130 --> 01:25:59,190
was going somewhere else and we were not

1675
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:01,140
we were not getting those ones back and

1676
01:26:05,900 --> 01:26:03,090
those ones had some of these shifty

1677
01:26:07,940 --> 01:26:05,910
things happening but yeah what would you

1678
01:26:11,810 --> 01:26:07,950
do if you were using those abilities and

1679
01:26:13,460 --> 01:26:11,820
you saw something like that I don't know

1680
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:13,470
when it's a controlled environment like

1681
01:26:23,090 --> 01:26:20,880
this I would count on that the the

1682
01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:23,100
people arranging it would would know

1683
01:26:27,500 --> 01:26:24,960
what to do or there would there would be

1684
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:27,510
sort of a chain of people to figure that

1685
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:30,570
out but doing it on your own I don't

1686
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:33,090
know because I mean these abilities are

1687
01:26:37,940 --> 01:26:36,570
available that's the thing this that's

1688
01:26:41,870 --> 01:26:37,950
the thing that's so crazy about remote

1689
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:41,880
viewing this is all all of this

1690
01:26:48,440 --> 01:26:46,320
available to all of us yeah I can hardly

1691
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:48,450
wrap my head around that sometimes it is

1692
01:26:55,610 --> 01:26:51,450
all available to all of us these

1693
01:26:58,220 --> 01:26:55,620
incredible psy abilities I just don't do

1694
01:27:00,800 --> 01:26:58,230
it I am going to up it's all tech I'm

1695
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:00,810
gonna go through some remote viewing

1696
01:27:05,630 --> 01:27:03,330
training that I've been looking forward

1697
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:05,640
to this for a very very long time and I

1698
01:27:07,939 --> 01:27:06,090
really

1699
01:27:10,970 --> 01:27:07,949
want to experience this for myself

1700
01:27:13,370 --> 01:27:10,980
before we head to the break and we'll

1701
01:27:15,140 --> 01:27:13,380
talk about the 2600 miles when we come

1702
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:15,150
back but I wanted to ask you about

1703
01:27:20,990 --> 01:27:17,610
Ramtha the school of enlight yeah did

1704
01:27:24,919 --> 01:27:21,000
you hang out did you hang out with RZ j

1705
01:27:26,689 --> 01:27:24,929
z jz r z did I say R Z you did say R Z

1706
01:27:27,950 --> 01:27:26,699
no you don't generally when you go to

1707
01:27:30,140 --> 01:27:27,960
the school and your student you don't

1708
01:27:34,729 --> 01:27:30,150
generally get to hang out with her it's

1709
01:27:37,879 --> 01:27:34,739
very very focused it's all about you

1710
01:27:40,879 --> 01:27:37,889
know working yourself working your mind

1711
01:27:43,310 --> 01:27:40,889
and proving that you can do these

1712
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:43,320
extraordinary feats to yourself so it's

1713
01:27:48,459 --> 01:27:45,810
not really about having access to her

1714
01:27:50,530 --> 01:27:48,469
it's it's really about this deep

1715
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:50,540
relationship of building this

1716
01:28:03,859 --> 01:27:59,360
subconscious inner world and creating

1717
01:28:07,399 --> 01:28:03,869
outcomes that again are paradigm

1718
01:28:09,410 --> 01:28:07,409
worldview changing and empowering really

1719
01:28:11,330 --> 01:28:09,420
really empowering at least that's how I

1720
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:11,340
took it away or how I took that away

1721
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:13,530
yeah so you didn't get a chance to hang

1722
01:28:19,939 --> 01:28:17,489
out with jay-z I did not mmm

1723
01:28:22,550 --> 01:28:19,949
I did not get a chance to hang out with

1724
01:28:25,339 --> 01:28:22,560
jay-z did you see her at contact in the

1725
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:25,349
desert I did she actually sat at our

1726
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:27,690
table those tables were so wide we

1727
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:29,489
didn't get to really talk to her but I

1728
01:28:34,669 --> 01:28:33,210
got to talk to her briefly yeah and yeah

1729
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:34,679
it was really nice but I never really

1730
01:28:40,580 --> 01:28:39,090
had before and when she's been around

1731
01:28:44,209 --> 01:28:40,590
you know most the times she's been

1732
01:28:45,770 --> 01:28:44,219
channeling so it's and it is a very odd

1733
01:28:47,060 --> 01:28:45,780
this is anyone who's been to the school

1734
01:28:50,570 --> 01:28:47,070
who's listening out there will know this

1735
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:50,580
it it's hard to believe for others but

1736
01:28:56,570 --> 01:28:53,610
it is a very different experience being

1737
01:28:58,879 --> 01:28:56,580
around her and being around her when

1738
01:29:05,120 --> 01:28:58,889
she's ramped up there is a feeling that

1739
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:05,130
is so masculine and dominant and huge

1740
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:08,880
when she is channeling it is you it's

1741
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:11,840
like your physiology is registering it

1742
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:15,330
and the voice in the accent too as well

1743
01:29:20,030 --> 01:29:19,050
I find really fascinating it is it is

1744
01:29:23,450 --> 01:29:20,040
fascinating but

1745
01:29:25,310 --> 01:29:23,460
just the feeling of it and I've always

1746
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:25,320
considered ramza the slap in the face

1747
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:27,450
channel you know it's always its

1748
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:31,050
business its business yes it is and so

1749
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:33,450
we'll come back in just a minute and

1750
01:29:38,630 --> 01:29:37,110
we'll talk about the 2600 miles with

1751
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:38,640
Tracy garbage this is fade to black

1752
01:29:43,210 --> 01:29:49,350
[Music]

1753
01:29:56,590 --> 01:29:52,530
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1754
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:56,600
you're listening to fade to black always

1755
01:30:01,720 --> 01:29:58,880
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1756
01:30:20,980 --> 01:30:01,730
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1757
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1758
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1759
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:26,450
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1760
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:28,850
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1761
01:30:33,940 --> 01:30:31,730
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1762
01:30:36,580 --> 01:30:33,950
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1763
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1764
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1765
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1766
01:30:45,310 --> 01:30:43,550
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1767
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1768
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1770
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1771
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1772
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1773
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1774
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1775
01:31:08,470 --> 01:31:06,170
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1776
01:31:10,540 --> 01:31:08,480
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1777
01:31:12,940 --> 01:31:10,550
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1778
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1779
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1780
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1781
01:31:22,860 --> 01:31:20,480
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1782
01:31:25,330 --> 01:31:22,870
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1783
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1784
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1785
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1786
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1787
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1788
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1789
01:31:39,550 --> 01:31:37,790
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1790
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1791
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1792
01:31:45,820 --> 01:31:43,880
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1793
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1794
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:48,910
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1795
01:32:00,500 --> 01:31:52,570
you listen to us and we listen to you so

1796
01:32:05,310 --> 01:32:03,330
you are listening to fade to black with

1797
01:32:10,110 --> 01:32:05,320
Jimmy Church on the game change in

1798
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:10,120
network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

1799
01:32:15,090 --> 01:32:12,130
listening to Jimmy Church this is

1800
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:15,100
revolution the revolution will not be

1801
01:32:23,380 --> 01:32:18,960
televised the revolution is on radio

1802
01:32:23,390 --> 01:33:01,350
[Music]

1803
01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:03,460
all right welcome back beta-blockers

1804
01:33:09,940 --> 01:33:05,360
Jimmy Church I guess tonight Tracy

1805
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:09,950
Garbett she is she has a bachelor's

1806
01:33:13,540 --> 01:33:12,050
degree in psychology and International

1807
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:13,550
Studies at the University of South

1808
01:33:17,950 --> 01:33:16,010
Florida and st. Petersburg and she's

1809
01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:17,960
also a professionally trained remote

1810
01:33:24,250 --> 01:33:20,960
viewer and a lifelong contactee and

1811
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:24,260
right before the break we started to

1812
01:33:31,620 --> 01:33:26,810
talk about some of her remote viewing

1813
01:33:36,940 --> 01:33:31,630
and one specific experience that span

1814
01:33:41,770 --> 01:33:36,950
2600 miles and through the point of view

1815
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:41,780
the POV of someone else now you got me

1816
01:33:46,750 --> 01:33:42,290
here

1817
01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:46,760
Tracy I am right I want to know exactly

1818
01:33:52,060 --> 01:33:50,510
what went down has this happened more

1819
01:33:53,860 --> 01:33:52,070
than once that's just a yes or no

1820
01:33:58,510 --> 01:33:53,870
question but has this happened more than

1821
01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:58,520
once yes but for me this one I'll

1822
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:00,800
explain why but this one was the most

1823
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:03,290
extraordinary one okay all right so what

1824
01:34:08,470 --> 01:34:05,930
happened okay so this is what we call an

1825
01:34:13,150 --> 01:34:08,480
outbound er an outbound er is when you

1826
01:34:15,190 --> 01:34:13,160
have a person planted somewhere in the

1827
01:34:16,900 --> 01:34:15,200
world at a certain time and you I have

1828
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:16,910
agreed to remote view them so this is

1829
01:34:21,310 --> 01:34:20,210
this is setup okay so I didn't know

1830
01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:21,320
where this person was and you're also

1831
01:34:24,790 --> 01:34:22,880
trying to determine if the person is

1832
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:24,800
male or female and and this type of

1833
01:34:33,690 --> 01:34:27,890
thing so you you go through the process

1834
01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:33,700
and as I said the process is this is a

1835
01:34:39,250 --> 01:34:36,800
series of questions and going deep

1836
01:34:41,620 --> 01:34:39,260
you're sort of you know essentially

1837
01:34:44,590 --> 01:34:41,630
quieting the left brain and allowing the

1838
01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:44,600
right brain to reach out I'm

1839
01:34:53,850 --> 01:34:48,320
oversimplifying here but and and just

1840
01:35:01,440 --> 01:34:53,860
with intent go to your target so this

1841
01:35:06,670 --> 01:35:04,270
smell the area I could smell that there

1842
01:35:12,900 --> 01:35:06,680
was water so it was coming and very

1843
01:35:14,529 --> 01:35:12,910
slowly I could I began to sort of feel

1844
01:35:15,819 --> 01:35:14,539
droplets of

1845
01:35:21,549 --> 01:35:15,829
this is the thing that's so interesting

1846
01:35:24,009 --> 01:35:21,559
it was experiencial feeling droplets of

1847
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:24,019
water on my face in such a way that I

1848
01:35:29,919 --> 01:35:27,650
could tell I was this person or I was

1849
01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:29,929
experiencing experiencing it as I was

1850
01:35:38,770 --> 01:35:34,880
sitting feeling a fountain blowing

1851
01:35:41,799 --> 01:35:38,780
gently on my face then I could it's so

1852
01:35:46,529 --> 01:35:41,809
it's so unusual but I could smell the

1853
01:35:52,180 --> 01:35:46,539
staleness of the water I could almost

1854
01:35:55,410 --> 01:35:52,190
feel the texture of the concrete that

1855
01:35:58,750 --> 01:35:55,420
was surrounding the water with the mossy

1856
01:36:03,009 --> 01:35:58,760
this mossy smell I could tell I was it

1857
01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:03,019
was sort of a contained body of water

1858
01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:05,360
and and this is the thing or feeling

1859
01:36:12,189 --> 01:36:08,260
senses can tell you all of this unusual

1860
01:36:13,540 --> 01:36:12,199
information for example how big you know

1861
01:36:15,819 --> 01:36:13,550
or how you know sort of the general

1862
01:36:17,879 --> 01:36:15,829
diameter of this place so I'm not at

1863
01:36:23,169 --> 01:36:17,889
this point I'm not seeing anything I'm

1864
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:23,179
feeling it I'm smelling goose poop like

1865
01:36:32,649 --> 01:36:27,110
I'm you know I I know I'm in a park and

1866
01:36:38,620 --> 01:36:32,659
I can but it's just the way it builds up

1867
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:38,630
I am noticing outside of the park and

1868
01:36:43,839 --> 01:36:41,090
again I'm not looking I'm feeling this

1869
01:36:47,879 --> 01:36:43,849
it's it's hard to describe but I could

1870
01:36:52,350 --> 01:36:47,889
feel that there were buildings

1871
01:36:55,359 --> 01:36:52,360
surrounding this water park and I knew

1872
01:36:57,370 --> 01:36:55,369
that I was in an urban environment I was

1873
01:36:59,850 --> 01:36:57,380
in a city it was in the middle of a city

1874
01:37:04,120 --> 01:36:59,860
a water park in the middle of the city

1875
01:37:06,250 --> 01:37:04,130
every fiber of my being new it's like I

1876
01:37:07,930 --> 01:37:06,260
I knew exactly where I was

1877
01:37:13,390 --> 01:37:07,940
it's really strange even though I'd

1878
01:37:18,819 --> 01:37:13,400
never been there before you know when I

1879
01:37:21,189 --> 01:37:18,829
listen to you describe that you I think

1880
01:37:23,259 --> 01:37:21,199
everybody knows immediately when you're

1881
01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:23,269
in the presence of a fountain because

1882
01:37:27,819 --> 01:37:26,380
all of those things come into play right

1883
01:37:31,689 --> 01:37:27,829
the myth

1884
01:37:34,419 --> 01:37:31,699
the drug list the sound the the concrete

1885
01:37:37,629 --> 01:37:34,429
the smell of a fountain the smell of

1886
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:37,639
what concrete all of these sensory

1887
01:37:43,660 --> 01:37:41,090
things come into play and you know when

1888
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:43,670
you're next to a fountain yeah you know

1889
01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:47,210
these things and so Wow Wow okay so what

1890
01:37:51,879 --> 01:37:49,040
happened what's fascinating is you start

1891
01:37:54,700 --> 01:37:51,889
to feel the creatures around you know

1892
01:37:57,010 --> 01:37:54,710
that there's fish and that they're swans

1893
01:37:59,470 --> 01:37:57,020
are good gooses you know you can feel

1894
01:38:01,540 --> 01:37:59,480
these you can feel the trees then the

1895
01:38:04,930 --> 01:38:01,550
visual started kicking him for me

1896
01:38:08,350 --> 01:38:04,940
after the experiential and I had a very

1897
01:38:10,959 --> 01:38:08,360
strong impression of what the fountain

1898
01:38:14,770 --> 01:38:10,969
looked like the exact shape where it was

1899
01:38:17,770 --> 01:38:14,780
in front of me and even the how the

1900
01:38:20,830 --> 01:38:17,780
spout of the fountain how wide that was

1901
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:20,840
the direction that it was going you know

1902
01:38:25,780 --> 01:38:23,210
it was one solid spout going up and over

1903
01:38:28,899 --> 01:38:25,790
to the side and because this was

1904
01:38:30,689 --> 01:38:28,909
pre-arranged there were some photos that

1905
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:30,699
we were able to see at the end of this

1906
01:38:39,819 --> 01:38:34,250
so the reveal happens well before the

1907
01:38:42,010 --> 01:38:39,829
reveal are you are you drawing am i

1908
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:42,020
drawing yeah are you drawing witchers

1909
01:38:47,020 --> 01:38:45,050
yes yes we are drawing this is all being

1910
01:38:49,450 --> 01:38:47,030
written down on paper writing all of

1911
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:49,460
these things as we perceive and then

1912
01:38:53,500 --> 01:38:51,040
you're you're going back inside

1913
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:53,510
perceiving more writing it down writing

1914
01:39:00,100 --> 01:38:56,570
it down writing it down then I just want

1915
01:39:04,510 --> 01:39:00,110
to say all of a sudden I see this

1916
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:04,520
compact open and I'm looking back at a

1917
01:39:11,229 --> 01:39:08,090
female eye with makeup oh shut up okay

1918
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:11,239
yeah this is cool this is cool okay so

1919
01:39:17,169 --> 01:39:14,000
the reveal happens and when it was about

1920
01:39:21,939 --> 01:39:17,179
to happen did you grab my shoulder and

1921
01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:21,949
say oh you see this hold on did you draw

1922
01:39:28,299 --> 01:39:25,760
the compact I wrote it down yeah you

1923
01:39:29,979 --> 01:39:28,309
wrote down okay cool cool okay okay or

1924
01:39:32,169 --> 01:39:29,989
at that part of the story so anyways the

1925
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:32,179
reveal happens and it's amazing I guess

1926
01:39:36,459 --> 01:39:34,730
the fountain is exact and again this is

1927
01:39:40,629 --> 01:39:36,469
not to prove to anybody else has proved

1928
01:39:41,710 --> 01:39:40,639
to me like I was absolutely Wow

1929
01:39:44,380 --> 01:39:41,720
you know

1930
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:44,390
the fountain was exact this was a large

1931
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:47,360
water park in the middle of a city you

1932
01:39:53,710 --> 01:39:50,800
know so this ends up being Orlando oh

1933
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:53,720
okay this being Orlando I'm living in

1934
01:40:00,160 --> 01:39:55,730
Canada at the time here's another weird

1935
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:00,170
thing years later I end up moving to

1936
01:40:04,540 --> 01:40:02,810
Orlando by a weird set of circumstances

1937
01:40:05,950 --> 01:40:04,550
I never I'm Canadian I never I never

1938
01:40:08,230 --> 01:40:05,960
ever thought I would be living in the

1939
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:08,240
States I end up moving to this place I

1940
01:40:14,110 --> 01:40:09,650
end up at a meet-up

1941
01:40:17,310 --> 01:40:14,120
I end up meeting that woman I was so

1942
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:17,320
excited I went for lunch with her and

1943
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:21,890
brought the remote views and but when we

1944
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:24,110
were getting when we were doing it at

1945
01:40:29,050 --> 01:40:26,210
the time the only thing that I you know

1946
01:40:31,450 --> 01:40:29,060
the reveal had sorry the reveal happens

1947
01:40:33,940 --> 01:40:31,460
they tell you everything you see

1948
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:33,950
everything but one thing I didn't tell

1949
01:40:38,410 --> 01:40:37,370
was the compact you know I was a little

1950
01:40:40,930 --> 01:40:38,420
self-conscious I thought what if I'm

1951
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:40,940
wrong I was so specific about that I

1952
01:40:45,070 --> 01:40:43,280
just didn't say it out loud but so when

1953
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:45,080
I moved to Orlando and I meet this woman

1954
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:47,330
we go out for lunch I tell her all about

1955
01:40:51,790 --> 01:40:49,010
the remote view I'm sitting there with

1956
01:40:54,790 --> 01:40:51,800
her and I tell her about the compact and

1957
01:40:57,460 --> 01:40:54,800
she says oh my god I never told anyone I

1958
01:41:01,870 --> 01:40:57,470
pulled out a small compact just in case

1959
01:41:05,290 --> 01:41:01,880
someone could see me so she what does

1960
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:05,300
this tell us I was looking through

1961
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:08,330
someone's eyes and we can look through

1962
01:41:13,990 --> 01:41:10,970
someone's eyes through this type of a

1963
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:14,000
distance you know thousands of miles of

1964
01:41:21,940 --> 01:41:18,170
way away what she is is feeling what she

1965
01:41:25,570 --> 01:41:21,950
is smelling what she is seeing and even

1966
01:41:29,770 --> 01:41:25,580
an action that she took looking at

1967
01:41:35,050 --> 01:41:29,780
herself in seeing that perfectly when

1968
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:35,060
you saw her face and her eyes what what

1969
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:37,850
what what went through your mind well

1970
01:41:41,620 --> 01:41:40,130
you know I've seen weird things like

1971
01:41:44,170 --> 01:41:41,630
this before and the types of visions

1972
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:44,180
that I've had so I wasn't I mean that

1973
01:41:52,780 --> 01:41:47,450
wasn't seeing something like that wasn't

1974
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:52,790
so shocking but it but it I guess having

1975
01:41:55,330 --> 01:41:54,770
a vision once those talking but seeing a

1976
01:41:57,939 --> 01:41:55,340
person

1977
01:41:59,410 --> 01:41:57,949
look back at me there's a little bit of

1978
01:42:02,470 --> 01:41:59,420
doubt that runs through your mind but on

1979
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:02,480
the other hand a lot of us know when you

1980
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:06,110
know something is right you know like

1981
01:42:12,550 --> 01:42:09,110
you feel it in your body and a part of

1982
01:42:14,709 --> 01:42:12,560
me knew this is that's her I looking at

1983
01:42:16,750 --> 01:42:14,719
me oh my god she's woman she's a woman

1984
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:16,760
it's a you know I could see her it was

1985
01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:19,489
it was shocking is what it was did you

1986
01:42:25,089 --> 01:42:22,400
go to the fountain did I yes

1987
01:42:28,689 --> 01:42:25,099
yes okay so then I went there you know I

1988
01:42:31,570 --> 01:42:28,699
went to that spot it was called Lake

1989
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:31,580
Eola in Orlando and so it's this

1990
01:42:37,570 --> 01:42:34,639
beautiful park and so even being there I

1991
01:42:43,209 --> 01:42:37,580
can tell you I couldn't even write down

1992
01:42:46,060 --> 01:42:43,219
close enough I can only know myself the

1993
01:42:48,820 --> 01:42:46,070
the depth of experience that I was

1994
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:48,830
having and that and the exactness of

1995
01:42:55,839 --> 01:42:50,330
what was going on there

1996
01:42:58,780 --> 01:42:55,849
it was mind-blowing mind-blowing to me

1997
01:43:00,399 --> 01:42:58,790
like validating to me that yeah there's

1998
01:43:03,399 --> 01:43:00,409
something going on here there is

1999
01:43:05,550 --> 01:43:03,409
something huge available to us and what

2000
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:05,560
you know what oh my gosh like again

2001
01:43:13,770 --> 01:43:09,679
society science has not got this you

2002
01:43:17,109 --> 01:43:13,780
know I know I I have watched some

2003
01:43:18,939 --> 01:43:17,119
amazing remote viewers go through their

2004
01:43:21,550 --> 01:43:18,949
stuff and I've interviewed them about

2005
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:21,560
you know different projects that they

2006
01:43:28,419 --> 01:43:23,810
have worked on and I am so fascinated

2007
01:43:32,350 --> 01:43:28,429
with this and not only with the

2008
01:43:35,919 --> 01:43:32,360
possibility of of the CIA using it for

2009
01:43:38,950 --> 01:43:35,929
whatever which they should or I think

2010
01:43:41,410 --> 01:43:38,960
any law-enforcement agency should use it

2011
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:41,420
but there's that but there's also the

2012
01:43:46,930 --> 01:43:45,050
off-world implications of it certainly

2013
01:43:50,490 --> 01:43:46,940
throughout history and going back and

2014
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:50,500
and looking at different events where

2015
01:43:55,180 --> 01:43:53,090
that we don't have any witnesses that

2016
01:43:57,399 --> 01:43:55,190
are alive for today maybe seeking out

2017
01:44:00,129 --> 01:43:57,409
those answers too as well I find it

2018
01:44:01,839 --> 01:44:00,139
completely fascinating and I do want to

2019
01:44:05,109 --> 01:44:01,849
learn how to do it and I think that we

2020
01:44:07,110 --> 01:44:05,119
all are born with that ability if you

2021
01:44:09,990 --> 01:44:07,120
choose to go and learn

2022
01:44:11,250 --> 01:44:10,000
you may be fascinated with with what you

2023
01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:11,260
have inside of you

2024
01:44:16,830 --> 01:44:15,310
I totally agree I think not only is it

2025
01:44:23,490 --> 01:44:16,840
good for those things but it is I think

2026
01:44:27,170 --> 01:44:23,500
it's a worthwhile experiment on our own

2027
01:44:31,020 --> 01:44:27,180
minds a mental exercise you know I think

2028
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:31,030
there is so much available to us and we

2029
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:32,890
don't really go there we just sort of

2030
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:35,290
you know some people would say we we run

2031
01:44:42,420 --> 01:44:37,210
on the hamster wheel and but there is

2032
01:44:44,220 --> 01:44:42,430
all this available and I just it I do

2033
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:44,230
believe it is available to all of us as

2034
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:46,810
well I do believe this is just a matter

2035
01:44:55,380 --> 01:44:51,570
of relaxing and satisfying the left

2036
01:44:56,460 --> 01:44:55,390
brain so that it just relaxes enough at

2037
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:56,470
the right brain as I was saying before

2038
01:45:02,520 --> 01:44:59,440
it can reach out into these perception

2039
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:02,530
and perceive and you know this whole

2040
01:45:05,940 --> 01:45:04,810
thing you know I haven't even talked

2041
01:45:11,910 --> 01:45:05,950
about the left brain right brain thank

2042
01:45:15,300 --> 01:45:11,920
you very much but makes me wonder if the

2043
01:45:18,570 --> 01:45:15,310
right brain I'm oversimplifying the

2044
01:45:23,670 --> 01:45:18,580
right brain thing but is some sort of

2045
01:45:26,370 --> 01:45:23,680
doorway that is available to all these

2046
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:26,380
realms and could it be the doorway that

2047
01:45:31,710 --> 01:45:28,930
they contact us through you know I've

2048
01:45:35,790 --> 01:45:31,720
had a lot of thoughts about this in

2049
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:35,800
terms of experiencers and people who are

2050
01:45:39,660 --> 01:45:37,330
having sightings and the left and the

2051
01:45:40,980 --> 01:45:39,670
right brain and I keep coming back to

2052
01:45:44,820 --> 01:45:40,990
this question it doesn't mean I have it

2053
01:45:47,010 --> 01:45:44,830
it's just um it's a curiosity and remote

2054
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:47,020
viewing is really you know thinking

2055
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:51,040
about remote viewing has really brought

2056
01:45:59,310 --> 01:45:54,090
this to the forefront for me you know

2057
01:46:02,070 --> 01:45:59,320
well the the other part about not only

2058
01:46:05,310 --> 01:46:02,080
remote viewing but all of the other

2059
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:05,320
aspects of the supernatural and what

2060
01:46:10,020 --> 01:46:08,050
falls underneath that umbrella whether

2061
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:10,030
it's a near-death experience

2062
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:13,150
or a ghost or an apparition or the the

2063
01:46:17,580 --> 01:46:14,890
being that showed up in your living room

2064
01:46:19,860 --> 01:46:17,590
- remote viewing straight out of body

2065
01:46:22,650 --> 01:46:19,870
experiences hypnosis

2066
01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:22,660
the whole thing it all it's all

2067
01:46:29,300 --> 01:46:27,040
connected 1 & 2 if science continues

2068
01:46:33,210 --> 01:46:29,310
down the road that they are on right now

2069
01:46:36,510 --> 01:46:33,220
then one of these dominoes Falls Traci

2070
01:46:39,830 --> 01:46:36,520
they all fall right they all fall and

2071
01:46:43,350 --> 01:46:39,840
and this world is is going to be shown

2072
01:46:45,420 --> 01:46:43,360
very quickly in short order that things

2073
01:46:48,270 --> 01:46:45,430
aren't what they seem and that there is

2074
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:48,280
something else to wonder about and to

2075
01:46:52,430 --> 01:46:51,040
ponder yeah and you know I just want to

2076
01:46:54,660 --> 01:46:52,440
ask you so do you think this is

2077
01:46:57,300 --> 01:46:54,670
experiences are happening to more and

2078
01:46:59,220 --> 01:46:57,310
more people I do well I I do I do

2079
01:47:03,000 --> 01:46:59,230
believe that and there's there's another

2080
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:03,010
part to this that I think is is really

2081
01:47:09,480 --> 01:47:06,730
fascinating the we've gone through about

2082
01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:09,490
two or three phases in humanity one if

2083
01:47:15,480 --> 01:47:12,070
we go back safe you know a very simple

2084
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:15,490
5,000 years ago 3,000 BC you know at the

2085
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:18,010
start of everything allegedly okay let's

2086
01:47:24,210 --> 01:47:21,280
go but let's go back 5,000 years 5,000

2087
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:24,220
years ago two basic questions were going

2088
01:47:29,700 --> 01:47:27,130
on even back then one what happens after

2089
01:47:31,380 --> 01:47:29,710
we die and two what's going on with

2090
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:31,390
those stars are we alone in this

2091
01:47:36,810 --> 01:47:33,370
universe those are the two fundamental

2092
01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:36,820
questions and and we've gone in and then

2093
01:47:43,740 --> 01:47:39,760
we went through a phase of which

2094
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:43,750
partially continues to this day that we

2095
01:47:48,420 --> 01:47:46,210
are alone in the universe right that

2096
01:47:52,110 --> 01:47:48,430
that's it yeah and and that you know

2097
01:47:55,740 --> 01:47:52,120
what maybe we just die that there isn't

2098
01:47:58,440 --> 01:47:55,750
anything else out there and and that

2099
01:48:01,250 --> 01:47:58,450
that there is a large segment of this

2100
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:01,260
population today Tracy that doesn't care

2101
01:48:08,010 --> 01:48:05,530
right yeah they really these things that

2102
01:48:11,940 --> 01:48:08,020
are so fascinating that we're always

2103
01:48:14,610 --> 01:48:11,950
questioned that today so many just want

2104
01:48:16,410 --> 01:48:14,620
to get on the treadmill provide for

2105
01:48:19,380 --> 01:48:16,420
their family which is fine get up go to

2106
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:19,390
work and and and come home watch some

2107
01:48:23,790 --> 01:48:21,730
news watch a couple of sitcoms go to bed

2108
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:23,800
and do it all over again and they drive

2109
01:48:29,550 --> 01:48:26,890
around and walk around all day long not

2110
01:48:32,149 --> 01:48:29,560
thinking about these things and that

2111
01:48:33,919 --> 01:48:32,159
blows that blows my mind now

2112
01:48:35,449 --> 01:48:33,929
then there's all of us who we just can't

2113
01:48:36,739 --> 01:48:35,459
stop thinking about it and trying to

2114
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:36,749
come up with different ways that we can

2115
01:48:43,729 --> 01:48:39,679
explore it right yeah and today today

2116
01:48:46,819 --> 01:48:43,739
now that we have not only these days of

2117
01:48:49,729 --> 01:48:46,829
disclosure and and what is going on with

2118
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:49,739
with mass media in the UFO question but

2119
01:48:54,469 --> 01:48:51,449
the search for life in the universe and

2120
01:48:56,330 --> 01:48:54,479
exoplanets these are these are fast

2121
01:48:58,879 --> 01:48:56,340
radio bursts these are things that are

2122
01:49:01,459 --> 01:48:58,889
in the headlines now every single day

2123
01:49:03,290 --> 01:49:01,469
and it is strongly suggesting that

2124
01:49:08,029 --> 01:49:03,300
things aren't what they seem and I think

2125
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:08,039
that those out there that were appearing

2126
01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:11,280
to be closed off have been wondering

2127
01:49:16,489 --> 01:49:13,760
about all of this and I think that now

2128
01:49:19,129 --> 01:49:16,499
everybody's starting to wake up and I

2129
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:19,139
really to answer your question directly

2130
01:49:24,529 --> 01:49:21,449
I think that we are in a shift I can

2131
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:24,539
feel it when my own family who never

2132
01:49:30,049 --> 01:49:26,610
they they all know what I do for a

2133
01:49:31,790 --> 01:49:30,059
living trust me right they know yeah

2134
01:49:34,279 --> 01:49:31,800
they can hear me on the radio they can

2135
01:49:37,549 --> 01:49:34,289
watch me on television they know what I

2136
01:49:40,429 --> 01:49:37,559
do but they don't talk to me about it

2137
01:49:43,370 --> 01:49:40,439
they don't they don't and so when the

2138
01:49:47,029 --> 01:49:43,380
New York Times bust out with that

2139
01:49:48,379 --> 01:49:47,039
article back in December and now it's on

2140
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:48,389
the news it's on the radio it's

2141
01:49:53,390 --> 01:49:50,489
everywhere and for the first time my

2142
01:49:55,250 --> 01:49:53,400
family was like well come on we knew we

2143
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:55,260
weren't alone I was like oh really you

2144
01:49:59,899 --> 01:49:57,360
want to talk about this now what about

2145
01:50:02,359 --> 01:49:59,909
the last five years you got right but

2146
01:50:04,850 --> 01:50:02,369
but you know and it was so funny how

2147
01:50:06,350 --> 01:50:04,860
they just took it in stride and I think

2148
01:50:07,790 --> 01:50:06,360
that's an example of everything else

2149
01:50:10,969 --> 01:50:07,800
that's out there I think there is a

2150
01:50:13,699 --> 01:50:10,979
shift going on I can feel it well does

2151
01:50:16,850 --> 01:50:13,709
it validate for you do you need the mass

2152
01:50:20,979 --> 01:50:16,860
media to talk about disclosure and the

2153
01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:20,989
UFO question to help you along as well

2154
01:50:27,290 --> 01:50:24,239
you know I could easily say no I you

2155
01:50:29,719 --> 01:50:27,300
know that reconciled this myself but no

2156
01:50:31,759 --> 01:50:29,729
I think it's easier for all of us and I

2157
01:50:33,770 --> 01:50:31,769
think you know we'd be lying if we

2158
01:50:37,909 --> 01:50:33,780
didn't say we we want that validation

2159
01:50:40,879 --> 01:50:37,919
and it does I mean you know I was just

2160
01:50:43,939 --> 01:50:40,889
in academia and honestly it's the

2161
01:50:44,609 --> 01:50:43,949
biggest taboo and you can't talk about

2162
01:50:46,949 --> 01:50:44,619
it everything

2163
01:50:52,319 --> 01:50:46,959
dancing around these things so for that

2164
01:50:55,529 --> 01:50:52,329
alone just to be able to be a little

2165
01:50:59,939 --> 01:50:55,539
more outward especially in that context

2166
01:51:02,129 --> 01:50:59,949
I would want it I would definitely want

2167
01:51:04,949 --> 01:51:02,139
it and it helps to open up the dialogue

2168
01:51:06,540 --> 01:51:04,959
as you were just saying you know and

2169
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:06,550
that's really important that that

2170
01:51:12,119 --> 01:51:09,070
dialogue is really important it's gonna

2171
01:51:13,500 --> 01:51:12,129
become more important when more of those

2172
01:51:16,379 --> 01:51:13,510
skeptical people are more of those

2173
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:16,389
people who wasn't affecting begin having

2174
01:51:20,790 --> 01:51:18,489
their own experiences if he if it keeps

2175
01:51:22,919 --> 01:51:20,800
on this trajectory right yeah you know

2176
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:22,929
and that's that's what I really enjoy

2177
01:51:27,449 --> 01:51:25,510
and what about and I'm gonna get back to

2178
01:51:33,149 --> 01:51:27,459
that in a second

2179
01:51:36,270 --> 01:51:33,159
do you have skeptical friends yeah okay

2180
01:51:42,540 --> 01:51:36,280
- so is this an opportunity for you to

2181
01:51:44,279 --> 01:51:42,550
go okay this is what in your face well

2182
01:51:47,069 --> 01:51:44,289
you know what some of those friends have

2183
01:51:50,549 --> 01:51:47,079
dropped off you know it got to that

2184
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:50,559
place where a lot of those have dropped

2185
01:51:55,409 --> 01:51:52,510
off and we'll see what happens moving

2186
01:51:58,709 --> 01:51:55,419
forward you know if if this comes back

2187
01:52:02,040 --> 01:51:58,719
around but I had a lot of friends who

2188
01:52:03,299 --> 01:52:02,050
were you know willing to listen they

2189
01:52:04,619 --> 01:52:03,309
didn't fully believe they didn't know

2190
01:52:06,779 --> 01:52:04,629
what they believe but they were willing

2191
01:52:09,929 --> 01:52:06,789
willing to listen and sort of keep this

2192
01:52:11,969 --> 01:52:09,939
the door open a crack and I think it'll

2193
01:52:17,939 --> 01:52:11,979
be wonderful for some of them that

2194
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:17,949
haven't seen to have start having this

2195
01:52:22,350 --> 01:52:20,050
dialogue again and and see how much

2196
01:52:25,259 --> 01:52:22,360
further we go and what they've been

2197
01:52:25,739 --> 01:52:25,269
thinking about so yeah I'm excited about

2198
01:52:29,310 --> 01:52:25,749
it

2199
01:52:31,139 --> 01:52:29,320
mentioned something earlier I want to go

2200
01:52:33,839 --> 01:52:31,149
back and visit really quick you said

2201
01:52:37,949 --> 01:52:33,849
that your mom your mom is watching

2202
01:52:41,609 --> 01:52:37,959
ancient aliens and which i think is

2203
01:52:45,060 --> 01:52:41,619
great but I think it goes beyond that in

2204
01:52:48,810 --> 01:52:45,070
where ancient aliens for the last eight

2205
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:48,820
years nine years has exposed all of

2206
01:52:55,409 --> 01:52:51,010
these questions not not only about

2207
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:55,419
history but et in general to the world

2208
01:52:58,880 --> 01:52:56,010
too

2209
01:53:01,730 --> 01:52:58,890
that wouldn't necessarily have ever

2210
01:53:04,010 --> 01:53:01,740
pursued this but it has certainly helped

2211
01:53:06,500 --> 01:53:04,020
the effort and you see it with your mom

2212
01:53:09,950 --> 01:53:06,510
do you think that those changes are as

2213
01:53:11,330 --> 01:53:09,960
as as real as I think they are do I

2214
01:53:13,790 --> 01:53:11,340
think that what is is really these

2215
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:13,800
changes you know with those out there

2216
01:53:17,870 --> 01:53:15,810
that would never ponder a we've said

2217
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:17,880
ponder tonight now like ten times

2218
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:20,850
I never the night I love that word it's

2219
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:24,210
a great word but Mills out there to

2220
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:27,570
ponder a subject that they would never

2221
01:53:33,170 --> 01:53:31,650
consider sorry can you just repeat the

2222
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:33,180
question one more time I don't know why

2223
01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:35,280
cut out again for me oh it's cutting out

2224
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:37,950
for you okay well I'll give it one more

2225
01:53:44,170 --> 01:53:40,890
try do you think that well let's go

2226
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:44,180
beyond ancient aliens actually all of

2227
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:48,570
the UFO and paranormal programming that

2228
01:53:54,050 --> 01:53:50,730
is on cable television

2229
01:53:55,850 --> 01:53:54,060
this exposure to the world to those out

2230
01:53:58,780 --> 01:53:55,860
there that would never pursue it on

2231
01:54:02,510 --> 01:53:58,790
their own yeah oh yes yes yes definitely

2232
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,520
shows like ancient aliens and hangar one

2233
01:54:07,340 --> 01:54:04,560
and I mean there's so many out there now

2234
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:07,350
they have been so helpful in opening up

2235
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:09,210
the dialogue and you know there's a

2236
01:54:15,590 --> 01:54:13,710
funny thing out there but sometimes it

2237
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:15,600
all it takes is high production values

2238
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:18,570
to get I know its attention right but

2239
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:21,410
it's a truth you know a marketing truth

2240
01:54:27,590 --> 01:54:24,810
but more people are listening more

2241
01:54:32,060 --> 01:54:27,600
people are I'm gonna use contemplating

2242
01:54:36,140 --> 01:54:32,070
this time these these other realities

2243
01:54:39,590 --> 01:54:36,150
these i these ideas they're they're just

2244
01:54:40,940 --> 01:54:39,600
willing to listen and I think people are

2245
01:54:43,340 --> 01:54:40,950
willing to go back into some of the

2246
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:43,350
Ancients and seeing some of the

2247
01:54:51,770 --> 01:54:47,690
parallels these you know seeming

2248
01:54:56,510 --> 01:54:51,780
coincidences and it is really helped in

2249
01:55:01,880 --> 01:54:56,520
opening up the dialogue and giving

2250
01:55:05,210 --> 01:55:01,890
people some seeds to begin conversations

2251
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:05,220
you know it's a bridge it's really

2252
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:08,490
building a bridge and so I'm grateful

2253
01:55:11,870 --> 01:55:09,690
that that's out there

2254
01:55:15,020 --> 01:55:11,880
my mother used to be scared of this

2255
01:55:17,110 --> 01:55:15,030
stuff and those shows helped her come

2256
01:55:19,550 --> 01:55:17,120
along you know they're they're gentle

2257
01:55:22,729 --> 01:55:19,560
sometimes they're they're not but they

2258
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:22,739
can be gentle some of them have you had

2259
01:55:32,510 --> 01:55:26,010
a sighting in the sky yourself no I

2260
01:55:35,510 --> 01:55:32,520
haven't well okay so when we were at

2261
01:55:38,290 --> 01:55:35,520
contact in the desert I think the year

2262
01:55:43,370 --> 01:55:40,490
looking through the night-vision goggles

2263
01:55:45,470 --> 01:55:43,380
I just I didn't hear the beginning so

2264
01:55:47,959 --> 01:55:45,480
there were things that I saw that we're

2265
01:55:50,479 --> 01:55:47,969
moving that looked so incredible but I

2266
01:55:55,090 --> 01:55:50,489
just wasn't sure my mind was you know so

2267
01:55:59,300 --> 01:55:58,310
because I saw a lot of crazy stuff

2268
01:56:01,670 --> 01:55:59,310
through those goggles

2269
01:56:03,170 --> 01:56:01,680
yeah there's that's a that's a game

2270
01:56:08,750 --> 01:56:03,180
changer when you see that for the first

2271
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:08,760
time but two years ago at contact when I

2272
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:12,210
was out with with my peeps we were out

2273
01:56:16,670 --> 01:56:13,290
there on the cliff and there was

2274
01:56:20,090 --> 01:56:16,680
probably 200 250 people out there we had

2275
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:20,100
the most amazing siding which has been

2276
01:56:30,350 --> 01:56:26,000
dubbed the Zorro and it was a backwards

2277
01:56:32,410 --> 01:56:30,360
Z in the sky that was that was carved

2278
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:32,420
out of the sky with this like aqua

2279
01:56:38,630 --> 01:56:36,000
marine coloured craft and it went

2280
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:38,640
backwards okay so the Z is started from

2281
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:41,040
the right on the top of the Z right

2282
01:56:45,770 --> 01:56:42,810
started on the right went to the left

2283
01:56:48,350 --> 01:56:45,780
went zigzag down and then took off to

2284
01:56:51,140 --> 01:56:48,360
the left and shot out across the sky and

2285
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:51,150
it was huge Tracey it took up a big

2286
01:56:55,939 --> 01:56:53,010
chunk of the sky and you should have

2287
01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:55,949
heard everybody screaming and you

2288
01:57:02,450 --> 01:56:57,930
weren't there because you would have

2289
01:57:05,300 --> 01:57:02,460
just said I saw the Z but I was I was

2290
01:57:09,020 --> 01:57:05,310
there but I was not out that night it

2291
01:57:10,910 --> 01:57:09,030
was really disappointed I've heard this

2292
01:57:15,170 --> 01:57:10,920
there were so many people I wasn't there

2293
01:57:15,950 --> 01:57:15,180
yeah the the screams which I was must

2294
01:57:18,110 --> 01:57:15,960
have been amazing

2295
01:57:21,290 --> 01:57:18,120
yeah it was it was really really cool

2296
01:57:24,500 --> 01:57:21,300
well let's take a break and when we come

2297
01:57:27,170 --> 01:57:24,510
back everybody we're gonna do the big

2298
01:57:29,090 --> 01:57:27,180
reveal are you ready for that Tracy will

2299
01:57:32,150 --> 01:57:29,100
do getting so ready we're gonna do the

2300
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2304
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super charity our guest tonight

2393
02:02:14,660 --> 02:02:10,080
Tracy Garvin now I've introduced her to

2394
02:02:17,180 --> 02:02:14,670
all of you out there very dynamic

2395
02:02:19,220 --> 02:02:17,190
conversation tonight and you can follow

2396
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:19,230
me on twitter at a church radio I'm

2397
02:02:27,229 --> 02:02:22,530
watching Twitter you know just just

2398
02:02:28,490 --> 02:02:27,239
blazing right here and now this is the

2399
02:02:35,479 --> 02:02:28,500
big reveal

2400
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:35,489
now Tracy stay put stay put but you're

2401
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:38,130
sitting next to somebody right now and I

2402
02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:40,850
would like to bring him on and it is

2403
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:44,400
Richard bleep and Dolan Richard how are

2404
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:49,650
you hi Jimmy I've been enjoying the

2405
02:02:53,390 --> 02:02:50,730
interview all evening

2406
02:02:55,939 --> 02:02:53,400
it was pretty dynamic but what I would

2407
02:03:02,510 --> 02:02:55,949
like for you to do right now is answer

2408
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:02,520
this question who is Tracy Garbett Wow

2409
02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:06,690
Tracy's someone that has just turned my

2410
02:03:13,550 --> 02:03:11,520
life around for the past two years since

2411
02:03:16,970 --> 02:03:13,560
we met had contact in the desert

2412
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:16,980
actually in 2016 which was the week of

2413
02:03:21,620 --> 02:03:19,440
your UFO sighting that you never stopped

2414
02:03:24,290 --> 02:03:21,630
talking about mm-hmm

2415
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:24,300
the weekend that I saw some UFOs with

2416
02:03:31,910 --> 02:03:26,210
you through night vision mm-hmm and

2417
02:03:34,970 --> 02:03:31,920
Tracy and I met at that event and we

2418
02:03:38,380 --> 02:03:34,980
have actually never stopped talking

2419
02:03:42,500 --> 02:03:38,390
since we had a we had a four-hour

2420
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:42,510
conversation that evening went one of

2421
02:03:49,070 --> 02:03:46,730
the evenings and with a couple of days

2422
02:03:50,660 --> 02:03:49,080
after that we didn't really were not in

2423
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:50,670
touch with each other and then just a

2424
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:52,650
few days after we got home we just

2425
02:03:57,919 --> 02:03:54,690
started communicating and it has been

2426
02:04:00,560 --> 02:03:57,929
one non-stop conversation ever since

2427
02:04:02,630 --> 02:04:00,570
pretty pretty cool when that happens and

2428
02:04:08,689 --> 02:04:02,640
there's only one way to seal that deal

2429
02:04:11,860 --> 02:04:08,699
right yeah so we got married in

2430
02:04:15,650 --> 02:04:11,870
Australia so yes that's how we see

2431
02:04:18,010 --> 02:04:15,660
it's uh it's I'm so happy for the two of

2432
02:04:22,130 --> 02:04:18,020
you and for the audience now to

2433
02:04:25,220 --> 02:04:22,140
understand what the conversation was

2434
02:04:27,410 --> 02:04:25,230
about tonight and and who she is for

2435
02:04:30,230 --> 02:04:27,420
this community and to you personally I

2436
02:04:31,850 --> 02:04:30,240
think it's absolutely amazing and I've

2437
02:04:34,730 --> 02:04:31,860
done this privately but I'm gonna do

2438
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:34,740
this publicly now congratulations to the

2439
02:04:40,430 --> 02:04:37,650
two of you it's it's just been

2440
02:04:42,350 --> 02:04:40,440
absolutely magic and to watch the two of

2441
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:42,360
you are be around each other it's really

2442
02:04:48,650 --> 02:04:45,930
cool and so congratulations thank you

2443
02:04:50,570 --> 02:04:48,660
thank you thanks so much Thanks I'm just

2444
02:04:52,430 --> 02:04:50,580
gonna say I've had a lot of friends who

2445
02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:52,440
have known me for many years many years

2446
02:04:56,930 --> 02:04:55,290
and every one of them has said my god

2447
02:05:01,700 --> 02:04:56,940
you're just so different these days and

2448
02:05:03,140 --> 02:05:01,710
it's all for the better and I mean in a

2449
02:05:04,790 --> 02:05:03,150
lot of ways I just feel that this has

2450
02:05:07,940 --> 02:05:04,800
been a very very good thing for me I

2451
02:05:12,260 --> 02:05:07,950
mean we work well together like we this

2452
02:05:14,330 --> 02:05:12,270
is ridiculous like we are to call us two

2453
02:05:16,730 --> 02:05:14,340
peas in a pod is actually that doesn't

2454
02:05:18,350 --> 02:05:16,740
even do is just as we we're like

2455
02:05:20,650 --> 02:05:18,360
together all that we never get bored

2456
02:05:23,180 --> 02:05:20,660
with each other we just never get tired

2457
02:05:24,650 --> 02:05:23,190
by the end of the day we're still like

2458
02:05:26,990 --> 02:05:24,660
we want to stay up because it's just too

2459
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:27,000
much fun we're going to sleep my god is

2460
02:05:34,730 --> 02:05:31,050
it because she's Canadian or do you have

2461
02:05:37,610 --> 02:05:34,740
a deep-rooted thing that you can't get

2462
02:05:39,170 --> 02:05:37,620
rid of yeah absolutely I'm I was born on

2463
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:39,180
Canada Day I was trying to take that

2464
02:05:44,090 --> 02:05:41,370
away from that nation ever since so yes

2465
02:05:45,710 --> 02:05:44,100
I clearly have I've got some kind of

2466
02:05:46,730 --> 02:05:45,720
Canadian thing happening let's just put

2467
02:05:51,740 --> 02:05:46,740
that right out there

2468
02:05:53,900 --> 02:05:51,750
that's another understatement this is

2469
02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:53,910
actually true so I I get a little goofy

2470
02:05:58,160 --> 02:05:55,920
about the Canada thing yeah when I met

2471
02:06:01,460 --> 02:05:58,170
her when I met her at contact two years

2472
02:06:04,490 --> 02:06:01,470
ago it was after one of my lectures and

2473
02:06:06,350 --> 02:06:04,500
in fact I not long before that I had

2474
02:06:09,290 --> 02:06:06,360
done a tour of Canada called the modern

2475
02:06:11,510 --> 02:06:09,300
knowledge tour and during that I had met

2476
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:11,520
a couple of very interesting experiences

2477
02:06:14,630 --> 02:06:13,530
in Vancouver and I happen to mention

2478
02:06:18,110 --> 02:06:14,640
that on stage

2479
02:06:22,310 --> 02:06:18,120
well Tracy had spent her entire adult

2480
02:06:24,950 --> 02:06:22,320
life in Vancouver and and so we get out

2481
02:06:28,370 --> 02:06:24,960
of we're leaving this crowded

2482
02:06:31,820 --> 02:06:28,380
the sanctuary that room in at that event

2483
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:31,830
and she just we're just stuck there and

2484
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:34,530
the exit she awkwardly says oh good

2485
02:06:37,729 --> 02:06:36,210
lecture I had some experiences in

2486
02:06:44,180 --> 02:06:37,739
Vancouver as well and I immediately

2487
02:06:50,419 --> 02:06:44,190
turned her and I'm like oh and an

2488
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:50,429
experiencer she had she had her guard up

2489
02:06:55,100 --> 02:06:52,530
we'll just say we'll put it mildly she

2490
02:06:58,370 --> 02:06:55,110
had her guard up against me and but

2491
02:07:00,439 --> 02:06:58,380
there was a reason yeah there you know

2492
02:07:01,669 --> 02:07:00,449
there was a reason I had met her a few

2493
02:07:03,830 --> 02:07:01,679
years before I didn't even know I

2494
02:07:06,770 --> 02:07:03,840
couldn't had no memory of having met her

2495
02:07:10,010 --> 02:07:06,780
because she wasn't interested in me so I

2496
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:10,020
put it out of my mind and met her this

2497
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:12,330
other time and she remembered me I had

2498
02:07:18,350 --> 02:07:15,210
no memory and that was kind of another

2499
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:18,360
funny thing to our our connection but I

2500
02:07:21,830 --> 02:07:19,920
was able to get her to come to my table

2501
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:21,840
she comes in my table like the next year

2502
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:25,050
later I'm just gonna say cuz I didn't

2503
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:31,890
want him to think anything and she's

2504
02:07:38,209 --> 02:07:34,530
like we'll see about that so she could a

2505
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:38,219
day later she comes over I'm Scott like

2506
02:07:42,410 --> 02:07:40,050
I don't about like a dozen people like

2507
02:07:44,689 --> 02:07:42,420
at my they're all around me and I

2508
02:07:47,300 --> 02:07:44,699
actually I put up my hand like a stop

2509
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:47,310
sign to all of them I actually did this

2510
02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:51,810
like straight arm out that stopped hi

2511
02:07:58,160 --> 02:07:54,239
you know you guys sound like you're 15

2512
02:08:01,370 --> 02:07:58,170
right now you know you realize that this

2513
02:08:04,610 --> 02:08:01,380
is every day yeah I'm 15 years old every

2514
02:08:06,860 --> 02:08:04,620
day and and she I wanted her to talk to

2515
02:08:08,930 --> 02:08:06,870
me then and and she felt embarrassed or

2516
02:08:11,390 --> 02:08:08,940
she did want all the attention on her

2517
02:08:14,180 --> 02:08:11,400
and I really had to strong-arm her for

2518
02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:14,190
the for the phone number just like don't

2519
02:08:18,740 --> 02:08:16,050
she said no I'll email you I said no

2520
02:08:20,780 --> 02:08:18,750
don't email me yeah I'll never see it

2521
02:08:23,390 --> 02:08:20,790
I'll never see him so I got her phone

2522
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:23,400
number anyway long story short we had a

2523
02:08:26,959 --> 02:08:25,290
conversation during that weekend and it

2524
02:08:31,240 --> 02:08:26,969
turned out to be four hours and we just

2525
02:08:34,899 --> 02:08:31,250
absolutely hit it off and that was it

2526
02:08:39,340 --> 02:08:34,909
well let me let me ask you this Richard

2527
02:08:44,450 --> 02:08:39,350
I'm I'm gonna go there

2528
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:44,460
that is this and I've certainly said

2529
02:08:49,790 --> 02:08:46,110
this about you both privately and

2530
02:08:52,250 --> 02:08:49,800
publicly many many times but you are

2531
02:08:56,540 --> 02:08:52,260
pragmatic you are black and white you

2532
02:08:58,100 --> 02:08:56,550
want documents you want the facts that's

2533
02:09:01,640 --> 02:08:58,110
what you write about that's what you

2534
02:09:05,330 --> 02:09:01,650
speak about and you are very critical of

2535
02:09:08,090 --> 02:09:05,340
a lot of things that don't have that

2536
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:08,100
kind of stuff to back something up but

2537
02:09:16,190 --> 02:09:12,410
now you're married to Tracy how has she

2538
02:09:19,490 --> 02:09:16,200
changed you how has she changed your

2539
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:19,500
view on some of these other things that

2540
02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:21,330
you may have been pretty critical about

2541
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:22,170
over the years

2542
02:09:25,670 --> 02:09:24,090
well let me I'm glad you asked me this

2543
02:09:29,830 --> 02:09:25,680
because it gives me an opportunity to

2544
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:29,840
bring some clarity to that issue so I

2545
02:09:37,700 --> 02:09:34,290
it's not quite accurate to say that I've

2546
02:09:39,710 --> 02:09:37,710
been critical of let's say remote

2547
02:09:44,660 --> 02:09:39,720
viewing in fact I've been interested in

2548
02:09:46,940 --> 02:09:44,670
remote viewing for 15 plus years and in

2549
02:09:51,110 --> 02:09:46,950
fact I lectured about it back in 2002

2550
02:09:53,180 --> 02:09:51,120
2003 I did a paper actually published

2551
02:09:55,850 --> 02:09:53,190
for the print version of phenomena

2552
02:09:58,130 --> 02:09:55,860
magazine way way back in those days on

2553
02:09:59,540 --> 02:09:58,140
remote viewing asking how is it possible

2554
02:10:01,550 --> 02:09:59,550
that it works because I knew that it did

2555
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:01,560
work mm-hmm I had spent an evening in

2556
02:10:06,380 --> 02:10:03,810
the home of Ingo Swann probably the most

2557
02:10:08,300 --> 02:10:06,390
famous remote viewer ever mm-hmm and I

2558
02:10:09,670 --> 02:10:08,310
knew how put off I knew Russell Tarr the

2559
02:10:12,830 --> 02:10:09,680
guys who developed the remote viewing

2560
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:12,840
program back in the day I I've known

2561
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:15,450
Jill mcmoneagle in Buchanan and rarely

2562
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:17,010
talked with all of these people about

2563
02:10:21,500 --> 02:10:19,530
what they do and so let me just say like

2564
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:21,510
I've never needed to be convinced that

2565
02:10:26,180 --> 02:10:23,520
that is real remote gaming is absolutely

2566
02:10:28,460 --> 02:10:26,190
will and the fact that it is real

2567
02:10:30,350 --> 02:10:28,470
incidentally is a challenge to our

2568
02:10:31,850 --> 02:10:30,360
contemporary understanding of physics

2569
02:10:34,850 --> 02:10:31,860
sure because then they're missing

2570
02:10:37,190 --> 02:10:34,860
something really important so when

2571
02:10:39,710 --> 02:10:37,200
people like Tracy are able to see

2572
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:39,720
through the eyes of another human being

2573
02:10:45,950 --> 02:10:42,810
and sense the sensations of another

2574
02:10:47,620 --> 02:10:45,960
human being a continent hat you know and

2575
02:10:50,540 --> 02:10:47,630
on the other side of the continent

2576
02:10:51,830 --> 02:10:50,550
that's not explainable in our physics

2577
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:51,840
and that's the [\h__\h] that's

2578
02:10:57,350 --> 02:10:55,050
failing of our physics that's not that's

2579
02:10:59,450 --> 02:10:57,360
not crockery that's not nonsense that's

2580
02:11:01,669 --> 02:10:59,460
a failing a shortcoming of our physics

2581
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:01,679
books we need to to deal so I've always

2582
02:11:06,740 --> 02:11:03,570
felt this way now where I have been

2583
02:11:12,410 --> 02:11:06,750
critical and I'm still really critical

2584
02:11:16,250 --> 02:11:12,420
is when our field is surrounded and lose

2585
02:11:19,010 --> 02:11:16,260
with claims that are that are not only

2586
02:11:22,689 --> 02:11:19,020
impossible to verify one way or the

2587
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:22,699
other but take on a kind of cultish

2588
02:11:26,750 --> 02:11:25,650
Messianic quality and you know what I'm

2589
02:11:28,669 --> 02:11:26,760
talking about I've gone down this road

2590
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:28,679
many times don't need to go down it now

2591
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:32,250
right and so what I try to do is walk

2592
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:35,130
this grey there's a gray area here the

2593
02:11:39,530 --> 02:11:37,530
gray area is there are things in this

2594
02:11:41,689 --> 02:11:39,540
world that we do not yet have the tools

2595
02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:41,699
to explain scientifically we just don't

2596
02:11:47,180 --> 02:11:45,210
but they're they are real so when we

2597
02:11:50,120 --> 02:11:47,190
encounter that information do we how do

2598
02:11:53,209 --> 02:11:50,130
we deal with it as a real question so my

2599
02:11:56,209 --> 02:11:53,219
approach is I don't ever offhandedly

2600
02:12:00,439 --> 02:11:56,219
throw anything out everything everything

2601
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:00,449
is into play but that doesn't mean that

2602
02:12:04,689 --> 02:12:02,250
I'm obligated to believe something just

2603
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:04,699
because it might be true it can be true

2604
02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:08,010
so I'm I'm usually quite comfortable in

2605
02:12:11,419 --> 02:12:09,810
a gray area about a lot of things Stan

2606
02:12:13,430 --> 02:12:11,429
Freedman always had the best expression

2607
02:12:15,410 --> 02:12:13,440
for it he says he had a gray basket

2608
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:15,420
didn't know if it's true or false and he

2609
02:12:20,180 --> 02:12:18,210
never felt a need to have a definitive

2610
02:12:22,189 --> 02:12:20,190
answer and I'm very similar in that way

2611
02:12:23,450 --> 02:12:22,199
I don't feel a need to have to have a

2612
02:12:25,970 --> 02:12:23,460
definitive answer on some of these

2613
02:12:28,970 --> 02:12:25,980
issues a channeling for example what

2614
02:12:35,240 --> 02:12:28,980
wait wait wait wait now let's go back to

2615
02:12:37,820 --> 02:12:35,250
my question was yeah how is she has she

2616
02:12:40,250 --> 02:12:37,830
helped you open your eyes and and maybe

2617
02:12:45,350 --> 02:12:40,260
understand things I I actually I do

2618
02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:45,360
believe so and you know one thing I have

2619
02:12:50,300 --> 02:12:46,560
to say I mean just

2620
02:12:54,910 --> 02:12:50,310
she's prompted me to be a little bit

2621
02:12:58,419 --> 02:12:54,920
more sensitive in some of my comments

2622
02:13:00,620 --> 02:12:58,429
publicly about people and about

2623
02:13:04,930 --> 02:13:00,630
situations and I might have been in the

2624
02:13:10,689 --> 02:13:07,330
you know it's one thing to be sensitive

2625
02:13:11,950 --> 02:13:10,699
to something theoretically and but it's

2626
02:13:13,150 --> 02:13:11,960
another thing when you're living with

2627
02:13:15,490 --> 02:13:13,160
someone when you're in love with someone

2628
02:13:18,910 --> 02:13:15,500
who's who is one of those people mm-hmm

2629
02:13:22,959 --> 02:13:18,920
and and when you know someone like me

2630
02:13:24,490 --> 02:13:22,969
comes down hard on somebody else because

2631
02:13:27,340 --> 02:13:24,500
I'm skeptical of their claims they can't

2632
02:13:30,970 --> 02:13:27,350
prove it whatever like I am I'm I do

2633
02:13:33,490 --> 02:13:30,980
recognize like my wife is one of these

2634
02:13:36,310 --> 02:13:33,500
people like she's had experiences but

2635
02:13:37,600 --> 02:13:36,320
her encounter with the being the seven

2636
02:13:40,270 --> 02:13:37,610
foot tall being that was in front of her

2637
02:13:42,910 --> 02:13:40,280
and and one of her friends she can't

2638
02:13:44,530 --> 02:13:42,920
prove that they cannot prove this and

2639
02:13:46,150 --> 02:13:44,540
there could be skeptics just coming out

2640
02:13:46,750 --> 02:13:46,160
of the woodwork saying that's BS that's

2641
02:13:50,110 --> 02:13:46,760
not true

2642
02:13:51,430 --> 02:13:50,120
and and the thing that remember is you

2643
02:13:54,810 --> 02:13:51,440
know people who come out with these

2644
02:13:56,709 --> 02:13:54,820
claims we're just human beings we're not

2645
02:13:58,540 --> 02:13:56,719
computer programs that don't have

2646
02:14:02,170 --> 02:13:58,550
feelings ever people have feelings and

2647
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:02,180
it's a very rare person who's going to

2648
02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:03,530
be able to go out there in the world and

2649
02:14:12,150 --> 02:14:06,410
just withstand all of the critics coming

2650
02:14:15,250 --> 02:14:12,160
after them and so I I would say that I'm

2651
02:14:17,950 --> 02:14:15,260
always striving and especially since

2652
02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:17,960
being with Tracy to be a bit more

2653
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:20,570
sensitive when I have individuals come

2654
02:14:23,860 --> 02:14:22,370
up to me at an event for example which

2655
02:14:26,320 --> 02:14:23,870
happens all the time and they've got a

2656
02:14:29,620 --> 02:14:26,330
story that I may not offer you know the

2657
02:14:32,830 --> 02:14:29,630
top of my head think is credible but I

2658
02:14:34,689 --> 02:14:32,840
will say I'm always trying to be civil

2659
02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:34,699
and polite and at least to give people

2660
02:14:40,360 --> 02:14:36,650
the opportunity for me to listen to them

2661
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:40,370
so Tracy I think has just helped me

2662
02:14:45,729 --> 02:14:44,090
realize a little bit more those people

2663
02:14:48,310 --> 02:14:45,739
that sometimes I'm very critical of hey

2664
02:14:52,209 --> 02:14:48,320
they're human beings you know they're

2665
02:14:54,100 --> 02:14:52,219
people and and my job isn't isn't always

2666
02:14:56,290 --> 02:14:54,110
to come down with my gavel and say this

2667
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:56,300
is true this is false let me have it's

2668
02:15:02,070 --> 02:14:57,920
like anyone else has just tried my best

2669
02:15:03,939 --> 02:15:02,080
to understand what is going on in this

2670
02:15:06,459 --> 02:15:03,949
incredible phenomenon that we're all

2671
02:15:08,439 --> 02:15:06,469
interested in we call UFOs and what's

2672
02:15:10,360 --> 02:15:08,449
going on in this world and I don't have

2673
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:10,370
to have you know full complete answers

2674
02:15:17,380 --> 02:15:14,810
all the time now let me ask Tracy a

2675
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:17,390
question going back to what Richard was

2676
02:15:22,750 --> 02:15:18,170
just talking

2677
02:15:25,930 --> 02:15:22,760
about I will say that Richard and I have

2678
02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:25,940
a very open way of talking to each other

2679
02:15:31,390 --> 02:15:29,360
and you were there when Richard came I'm

2680
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:31,400
not gonna say about what who that that's

2681
02:15:35,950 --> 02:15:32,210
not the point

2682
02:15:38,020 --> 02:15:35,960
but Richard came up to me recently and

2683
02:15:41,380 --> 02:15:38,030
you were there and he was pretty angry

2684
02:15:46,479 --> 02:15:41,390
he was pretty angry at me and he

2685
02:15:49,090 --> 02:15:46,489
oh yeah of course you do and and he let

2686
02:15:50,740 --> 02:15:49,100
loose right and and I tried to calm him

2687
02:15:54,010 --> 02:15:50,750
down and there was no calming him down

2688
02:15:56,410 --> 02:15:54,020
but we have we will talk to each other

2689
02:15:58,959 --> 02:15:56,420
that way and I was fine with that but

2690
02:16:01,750 --> 02:15:58,969
you saw that now tell me the truth did

2691
02:16:04,540 --> 02:16:01,760
you miss me oh yeah did you pull them

2692
02:16:10,150 --> 02:16:04,550
aside and goat Richard what what are you

2693
02:16:13,959 --> 02:16:10,160
doing don't look at Richard hand signal

2694
02:16:15,850 --> 02:16:13,969
I wish I could show you what what it is

2695
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:15,860
because the first time you guys were

2696
02:16:19,300 --> 02:16:17,810
discussing that panel I think it got a

2697
02:16:22,300 --> 02:16:19,310
little bit heated as well and he got the

2698
02:16:25,540 --> 02:16:22,310
hand signal this sort of you know okay

2699
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:25,550
you guys are up here bring it down bring

2700
02:16:35,230 --> 02:16:29,210
it you know a little bit but yeah at

2701
02:16:37,900 --> 02:16:35,240
contact I do remember that and yeah and

2702
02:16:40,950 --> 02:16:37,910
I think were you're uncomfortable with

2703
02:16:43,780 --> 02:16:40,960
it well yeah yeah I was uncomfortable

2704
02:16:45,580 --> 02:16:43,790
I'm glad you both have thick skin and

2705
02:16:46,839 --> 02:16:45,590
you guys you guys can deal with each

2706
02:16:51,790 --> 02:16:46,849
other like that it maybe it's a little

2707
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:51,800
bit of a Canadian in me I not as good

2708
02:16:56,560 --> 02:16:54,410
with direct conflict like that but you

2709
02:17:03,040 --> 02:16:56,570
guys work it out you always work it out

2710
02:17:05,140 --> 02:17:03,050
and we did really well yeah I think you

2711
02:17:06,820 --> 02:17:05,150
to trust each other underneath it all so

2712
02:17:08,650 --> 02:17:06,830
but yeah it was definitely an

2713
02:17:15,429 --> 02:17:08,660
uncomfortable moment that's for sure I

2714
02:17:16,860 --> 02:17:15,439
was like woah woah it's not going let

2715
02:17:21,270 --> 02:17:16,870
snot get into details

2716
02:17:24,580 --> 02:17:21,280
yeah too much detail but the point that

2717
02:17:27,759 --> 02:17:24,590
that's what you get from somebody that

2718
02:17:29,331 --> 02:17:27,769
is now standing beside you right and and

2719
02:17:32,090 --> 02:17:29,341
you guys are

2720
02:17:32,810 --> 02:17:32,100
or you know like almost like a ying and

2721
02:17:36,100 --> 02:17:32,820
yang

2722
02:17:40,670 --> 02:17:36,110
right yeah yeah we are and I think that

2723
02:17:43,640 --> 02:17:40,680
you know I leave a little bit more I

2724
02:17:45,770 --> 02:17:43,650
think for him he's perhaps a little bit

2725
02:17:48,081 --> 02:17:45,780
more open and for me it always reminds

2726
02:17:49,911 --> 02:17:48,091
me to be a little bit more grounded so

2727
02:17:52,340 --> 02:17:49,921
you know I'm still uncomfortable talking

2728
02:17:55,041 --> 02:17:52,350
about my experiences I'm working my way

2729
02:17:57,170 --> 02:17:55,051
through that I feel comfortable in

2730
02:17:59,110 --> 02:17:57,180
myself about them but I'm still just

2731
02:18:03,680 --> 02:17:59,120
getting used to talking about them and

2732
02:18:06,621 --> 02:18:03,690
in public but well now what everybody's

2733
02:18:07,970 --> 02:18:06,631
anymore yes I was barely scratching the

2734
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:07,980
surface but I'm just getting used to

2735
02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:11,850
talking about them but have you the yin

2736
02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:14,490
and the yang it is it's true and I think

2737
02:18:21,770 --> 02:18:19,770
it's actually it's a strength I really

2738
02:18:24,770 --> 02:18:21,780
appreciate that it's challenging at

2739
02:18:27,741 --> 02:18:24,780
times it really is but I think we're

2740
02:18:32,781 --> 02:18:27,751
really good for each other have you had

2741
02:18:40,430 --> 02:18:32,791
an experience together now have you guys

2742
02:18:42,081 --> 02:18:40,440
shared anything the only know we haven't

2743
02:18:46,930 --> 02:18:42,091
had sort of a contact experience but

2744
02:18:50,541 --> 02:18:46,940
richard has been exposed to these really

2745
02:18:52,701 --> 02:18:50,551
unusual dreams that I have so getting

2746
02:18:54,560 --> 02:18:52,711
exposed and you know he's following

2747
02:18:57,081 --> 02:18:54,570
through day by day and seeing what my

2748
02:18:59,570 --> 02:18:57,091
life is like I have to just say this you

2749
02:19:01,190 --> 02:18:59,580
guys didn't get a chance tracy has some

2750
02:19:03,320 --> 02:19:01,200
of the most unusual dreams of anyone

2751
02:19:05,331 --> 02:19:03,330
like I've ever met in my life and in

2752
02:19:06,741 --> 02:19:05,341
fact she's had other friends like

2753
02:19:08,781 --> 02:19:06,751
experienced friends who have said the

2754
02:19:12,161 --> 02:19:08,791
same thing to her Tracey's dreams are

2755
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:12,171
almost like future future tech dreams

2756
02:19:16,460 --> 02:19:14,370
like you're gonna have to talk to her

2757
02:19:20,650 --> 02:19:16,470
about this sometime like the the most

2758
02:19:23,420 --> 02:19:20,660
interesting bizarre but like fascinating

2759
02:19:26,241 --> 02:19:23,430
convoluted but like consistent narrative

2760
02:19:29,810 --> 02:19:26,251
dreams like I I don't have dreams like

2761
02:19:32,630 --> 02:19:29,820
this and and it actually has prompted

2762
02:19:35,690 --> 02:19:32,640
her to she's done and she's actually

2763
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:35,700
doing research right now into what she's

2764
02:19:40,500 --> 02:19:37,930
calling contact dreams and

2765
02:19:42,630 --> 02:19:40,510
of varying levels of vividness from you

2766
02:19:45,180 --> 02:19:42,640
know your ordinary dream - higher higher

2767
02:19:48,300 --> 02:19:45,190
levels of immediacy to those dreams that

2768
02:19:50,910 --> 02:19:48,310
you know are not dreams and and I think

2769
02:19:53,910 --> 02:19:50,920
it's fair to say she's going down that

2770
02:19:54,871 --> 02:19:53,920
path because of her own history her

2771
02:19:57,060 --> 02:19:54,881
lifetime of it

2772
02:20:00,751 --> 02:19:57,070
no as they're highly unusual dreams is

2773
02:20:02,341 --> 02:20:00,761
there a way Richard I'm sure you guys

2774
02:20:06,810 --> 02:20:02,351
have discussed this but let's talk about

2775
02:20:11,730 --> 02:20:06,820
it publicly is there a way that her

2776
02:20:14,730 --> 02:20:11,740
remote viewing could assist you in your

2777
02:20:18,001 --> 02:20:14,740
own publications such as maybe false

2778
02:20:21,091 --> 02:20:18,011
flags or here's what I would say about

2779
02:20:24,541 --> 02:20:21,101
that remember the the there was the old

2780
02:20:26,310 --> 02:20:24,551
TV show Law & Order yes and and there

2781
02:20:28,860 --> 02:20:26,320
would often be evidence that would be

2782
02:20:31,350 --> 02:20:28,870
submitted but it wasn't admissible but

2783
02:20:33,450 --> 02:20:31,360
but the the lawyers would still use it

2784
02:20:37,530 --> 02:20:33,460
as leads because they knew it was true

2785
02:20:41,131 --> 02:20:37,540
right so like my attitude would be like

2786
02:20:43,291 --> 02:20:41,141
I would not as as a historian of false

2787
02:20:46,440 --> 02:20:43,301
likes or of UFOs of that matter I would

2788
02:20:50,900 --> 02:20:46,450
not probably confidently use remote

2789
02:20:53,700 --> 02:20:50,910
viewed intelligence for my information

2790
02:20:56,131 --> 02:20:53,710
although you know look I've written

2791
02:20:59,430 --> 02:20:56,141
about remote viewing by people like Ingo

2792
02:21:02,280 --> 02:20:59,440
Swann and mcmoneagle and it's not it's

2793
02:21:03,091 --> 02:21:02,290
not necessarily like ruled out but it

2794
02:21:05,070 --> 02:21:03,101
would have to be under the right

2795
02:21:07,921 --> 02:21:05,080
conditions but what I what I would be

2796
02:21:10,350 --> 02:21:07,931
interested to do if the remote view were

2797
02:21:12,511 --> 02:21:10,360
done in a targeted way like that is just

2798
02:21:13,950 --> 02:21:12,521
see what see what comes up I just want

2799
02:21:18,121 --> 02:21:13,960
to add something here there is a bit of

2800
02:21:22,621 --> 02:21:18,131
a problem with that because the target

2801
02:21:25,410 --> 02:21:22,631
has to be a blind target otherwise the

2802
02:21:27,060 --> 02:21:25,420
ego can get involved the left brain can

2803
02:21:32,371 --> 02:21:27,070
get involved guessing can get involved

2804
02:21:36,360 --> 02:21:32,381
so at least for me the most successful

2805
02:21:38,820 --> 02:21:36,370
remote views and the most confident I am

2806
02:21:43,980 --> 02:21:38,830
in remote users when I have zero

2807
02:21:46,350 --> 02:21:43,990
information so X is perfect with the

2808
02:21:47,820 --> 02:21:46,360
intent but help so this is why it's kind

2809
02:21:49,711 --> 02:21:47,830
of funny you know people have said this

2810
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:49,721
to me before oh why don't you help her

2811
02:21:54,150 --> 02:21:51,760
to do this so why don't you just

2812
02:21:57,870 --> 02:21:54,160
use the moon and remote view it it kind

2813
02:22:00,960 --> 02:21:57,880
of doesn't work like that no all of all

2814
02:22:03,690 --> 02:22:00,970
of the information that is preloaded in

2815
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:03,700
your mind then comes into play we could

2816
02:22:07,170 --> 02:22:05,410
have someone give you the assignment and

2817
02:22:10,260 --> 02:22:07,180
you just wouldn't know yeah yeah it

2818
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:10,270
could be it could be the USS Pueblo

2819
02:22:15,929 --> 02:22:13,359
right in an envelope yeah and go from

2820
02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:15,939
there no a week we actually we should

2821
02:22:22,380 --> 02:22:19,930
try that I'm thinking we should we'll

2822
02:22:24,210 --> 02:22:22,390
have like I'd be happy to see us like we

2823
02:22:25,710 --> 02:22:24,220
would have to disguise it I mean you

2824
02:22:30,719 --> 02:22:25,720
have to and you know now we're sitting

2825
02:22:33,260 --> 02:22:30,729
here talking about you see what I'm

2826
02:22:36,690 --> 02:22:33,270
saying the problem with it it has to be

2827
02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:36,700
like a blind remote view we can take

2828
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:39,370
care of the blind part we'll take care

2829
02:22:43,290 --> 02:22:41,040
of that yeah we can take care of that

2830
02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:43,300
you guys are sitting here talking about

2831
02:22:47,309 --> 02:22:45,310
it or anything but all right one one

2832
02:22:48,990 --> 02:22:47,319
thing I just I wanted to mention about

2833
02:22:51,650 --> 02:22:49,000
because I've talked with Tracy about a

2834
02:22:57,150 --> 02:22:51,660
remote fuse for a long time she did

2835
02:23:01,349 --> 02:22:57,160
hundreds of professionally like sort of

2836
02:23:03,719 --> 02:23:01,359
set up remote views with with Paul elder

2837
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:03,729
of the Monroe Institute and she was like

2838
02:23:08,670 --> 02:23:05,920
an athlete like she did this for years

2839
02:23:11,880 --> 02:23:08,680
like how many doing six targets twice a

2840
02:23:14,700 --> 02:23:11,890
week for two years straight yeah I was I

2841
02:23:18,500 --> 02:23:14,710
was really really into it I I wanted to

2842
02:23:21,599 --> 02:23:18,510
I wanted to see where I could go with it

2843
02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:21,609
it's like a muscle exercising it

2844
02:23:26,490 --> 02:23:23,410
I need have hot streaks and cold streaks

2845
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:26,500
yeah yeah this is what I I've often said

2846
02:23:31,170 --> 02:23:29,410
like wow I really understand the the hot

2847
02:23:32,849 --> 02:23:31,180
streak cold cold straight thing like

2848
02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:32,859
baseball players for example because

2849
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:36,160
it's all is interplay with your your

2850
02:23:42,059 --> 02:23:39,930
left monkey mind you know you could be

2851
02:23:43,710 --> 02:23:42,069
getting your targets getting your

2852
02:23:46,500 --> 02:23:43,720
targets getting your targets on this

2853
02:23:48,330 --> 02:23:46,510
great streak but as soon as you

2854
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:48,340
something you know you get one wrong

2855
02:23:53,790 --> 02:23:52,210
let's just say and then doubt comes in

2856
02:23:56,599 --> 02:23:53,800
and then you're doing your next remote

2857
02:23:59,670 --> 02:23:56,609
view and and that doubt is sitting there

2858
02:24:00,420 --> 02:23:59,680
there's something really yeah you get

2859
02:24:05,010 --> 02:24:00,430
the yips

2860
02:24:08,219 --> 02:24:05,020
you do yeah it's and it sticks and you

2861
02:24:13,050 --> 02:24:08,229
then you're using your left brain to to

2862
02:24:16,530 --> 02:24:13,060
try to get out of it but then trying and

2863
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:16,540
overthinking again is sort of left and

2864
02:24:19,230 --> 02:24:17,410
again I'm just gonna say I'm

2865
02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:19,240
oversimplifying the left and right brain

2866
02:24:24,179 --> 02:24:21,760
thing but but for the sake of the

2867
02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:24,189
conversation you know what I mean it's

2868
02:24:29,670 --> 02:24:26,890
fascinating yeah and you know just again

2869
02:24:32,190 --> 02:24:29,680
to reiterate I my approach to studying

2870
02:24:35,219 --> 02:24:32,200
UFOs or really anything hasn't changed

2871
02:24:37,500 --> 02:24:35,229
in the least when I write anything or

2872
02:24:39,389 --> 02:24:37,510
speak publicly on the subject I want to

2873
02:24:42,090 --> 02:24:39,399
have my facts straight I want to be

2874
02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:42,100
confident in the factual chronology of

2875
02:24:45,570 --> 02:24:43,600
whatever it is I'm talking about but it

2876
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:45,580
doesn't mean that I don't recognize we

2877
02:24:52,889 --> 02:24:48,850
live in a crazy world that is that's got

2878
02:24:57,000 --> 02:24:52,899
a reality that's far beyond you know our

2879
02:24:58,620 --> 02:24:57,010
ordinary consensus reality and and Tracy

2880
02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:58,630
is one of many people who's living proof

2881
02:25:02,910 --> 02:24:58,960
of that

2882
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:02,920
now really quick I can't get out of here

2883
02:25:06,660 --> 02:25:05,290
Richard without well first I want to

2884
02:25:09,690 --> 02:25:06,670
thank Tracy for coming on tonight

2885
02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:09,700
absolutely fascinating conversation and

2886
02:25:14,190 --> 02:25:12,130
I can't wait till she's on with us again

2887
02:25:18,090 --> 02:25:14,200
there's so much more to explore but

2888
02:25:19,679 --> 02:25:18,100
what's going on with the book by the

2889
02:25:22,170 --> 02:25:19,689
book you mean the false flag book yes

2890
02:25:26,790 --> 02:25:22,180
it's wonderful it could not go but be

2891
02:25:29,550 --> 02:25:26,800
going better and it's a true answer it's

2892
02:25:33,570 --> 02:25:29,560
going very well okay so we can't expect

2893
02:25:37,290 --> 02:25:33,580
it we can expect it in 2019 yeah most

2894
02:25:40,139 --> 02:25:37,300
likely you're going to be it's going to

2895
02:25:42,809 --> 02:25:40,149
be a book that I'm so looking forward to

2896
02:25:45,780 --> 02:25:42,819
completing and my head is in the game

2897
02:25:48,200 --> 02:25:45,790
and it'll it'll be done when it's done

2898
02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:48,210
my friend okay all right and there one

2899
02:25:55,670 --> 02:25:51,550
when it is done one last question has

2900
02:25:58,620 --> 02:25:55,680
Tracy changed your musical tastes oh

2901
02:26:03,719 --> 02:25:58,630
well yeah we she's enhanced my love for

2902
02:26:07,530 --> 02:26:03,729
disco yeah which is what squash did has

2903
02:26:09,960 --> 02:26:07,540
been enhanced okay she's gotten me more

2904
02:26:12,719 --> 02:26:09,970
into it oh yeah we definitely other than

2905
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:12,729
our disco love our mutual disco love you

2906
02:26:15,389 --> 02:26:14,170
know we have all these different things

2907
02:26:18,591 --> 02:26:15,399
that we were into so it's been this

2908
02:26:21,560 --> 02:26:18,601
wonderful merging and it

2909
02:26:23,690 --> 02:26:21,570
expanded eclectic I haven't gotten into

2910
02:26:25,671 --> 02:26:23,700
Led Zeppelin yet that for her she's a

2911
02:26:31,491 --> 02:26:25,681
little to you that was always called

2912
02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:31,501
older brother music music that's what we

2913
02:26:35,421 --> 02:26:32,610
called it Tracy

2914
02:26:37,341 --> 02:26:35,431
you have to sit and watch the song

2915
02:26:40,190 --> 02:26:37,351
remains the same from beginning to end

2916
02:26:41,270 --> 02:26:40,200
with Richard that's what you have to do

2917
02:26:43,610 --> 02:26:41,280
Richard what was the last song you

2918
02:26:44,930 --> 02:26:43,620
listened to today oh that's an easy one

2919
02:26:46,970 --> 02:26:44,940
we both were listening to it together

2920
02:26:50,001 --> 02:26:46,980
how about you do the honors it was more

2921
02:26:54,201 --> 02:26:50,011
than a woman by the Bee Gees Oh doesn't

2922
02:26:57,560 --> 02:26:54,211
get any better than that doing our own

2923
02:27:00,371 --> 02:26:57,570
little Barry Gibb throughout oh when one

2924
02:27:03,171 --> 02:27:00,381
day you're not going to hear no one day

2925
02:27:05,631 --> 02:27:03,181
Richard you'll hear me do my Barry Gibb

2926
02:27:08,150 --> 02:27:05,641
oh I wanted welcome Pete

2927
02:27:12,020 --> 02:27:08,160
Tracy what did you think when Richard

2928
02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:12,030
and I harmonized singing happy birthday

2929
02:27:16,430 --> 02:27:12,650
George

2930
02:27:21,110 --> 02:27:16,440
wasn't that amazing I happy birthday

2931
02:27:23,961 --> 02:27:21,120
yes that was it you guys have this whole

2932
02:27:27,171 --> 02:27:23,971
other area of talent yeah I shocked

2933
02:27:29,421 --> 02:27:27,181
myself actually you sounded so good I

2934
02:27:30,230 --> 02:27:29,431
think we need to post that yeah it's out

2935
02:27:32,480 --> 02:27:30,240
there somewhere

2936
02:27:36,411 --> 02:27:32,490
thank you you too I needed like powder

2937
02:27:38,720 --> 02:27:36,421
blue powder blue tuxedo with ruffles and

2938
02:27:40,730 --> 02:27:38,730
mustache and a complete experience yeah

2939
02:27:42,261 --> 02:27:40,740
and mustaches yeah that would have been

2940
02:27:46,100 --> 02:27:42,271
yeah yeah definitely

2941
02:27:47,451 --> 02:27:46,110
hey you guys again congratulations Tracy

2942
02:27:49,881 --> 02:27:47,461
thank you so much for the conversation

2943
02:27:51,770 --> 02:27:49,891
and Richard you're the best you're

2944
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:51,780
Richard bleep indolent and thank you too

2945
02:27:59,511 --> 02:27:54,450
so much thanks Jimmy enjoy the rest of

2946
02:28:01,461 --> 02:27:59,521
your night Richard and Tracy Dolan right

2947
02:28:04,461 --> 02:28:01,471
there the big reveal thank you so much

2948
02:28:07,400 --> 02:28:04,471
Tracy and of course

2949
02:28:09,680 --> 02:28:07,410
Tracy's info and everything is is over

2950
02:28:11,810 --> 02:28:09,690
at Richard Dolan press and they've also

2951
02:28:15,171 --> 02:28:11,820
got some other new stuff going on over

2952
02:28:16,940 --> 02:28:15,181
there too as well there you go great

2953
02:28:19,730 --> 02:28:16,950
conversation the big reveal tonight

2954
02:28:20,480 --> 02:28:19,740
Tracy Garbett and Richard bleep and

2955
02:28:22,100 --> 02:28:20,490
Dolan

2956
02:28:23,961 --> 02:28:22,110
I'm your host Jimmy church this is fade

2957
02:28:25,491 --> 02:28:23,971
to black I'm gonna get out of here and

2958
02:28:27,000 --> 02:28:25,501
come back and open up the phone lines

2959
02:28:28,490 --> 02:28:27,010
for all

2960
02:28:44,330 --> 02:28:28,500
I'll be right back

2961
02:28:47,519 --> 02:28:44,340
[Music]

2962
02:28:52,979 --> 02:28:47,529
and you are listening to my boy Jimmy

2963
02:28:56,219 --> 02:28:52,989
Church on Jimmy Jo's radio.com despite

2964
02:29:06,500 --> 02:28:56,229
popular opinion reading a book will not

2965
02:29:10,170 --> 02:29:06,510
make you smarter hurricanes earthquakes

2966
02:29:12,630 --> 02:29:10,180
wildfires this year we've experienced

2967
02:29:14,910 --> 02:29:12,640
more than our fair share this is Jimmy

2968
02:29:17,250 --> 02:29:14,920
Church a fade to black and last month I

2969
02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:17,260
decided to make sure my family does not

2970
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:19,449
have to worry about food should we get

2971
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caught in a real emergency situation

2972
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2973
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2979
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2980
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2981
02:29:48,990 --> 02:29:45,819
protected your family not only have I

2982
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tasted and tested I own it now you can

2983
02:29:53,550 --> 02:29:51,399
too just click on the new mana banner on

2984
02:29:56,010 --> 02:29:53,560
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2985
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2986
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2987
02:30:03,139 --> 02:30:01,779
fade to black t-shirt seriously gobekli

2988
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2989
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3000
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3001
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3002
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3003
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like the bunker leaning further into the

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3006
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3007
02:31:01,130 --> 02:30:56,080
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3008
02:31:03,780 --> 02:31:01,140
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3009
02:31:06,450 --> 02:31:03,790
hey can we talk about something serious

3010
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:06,460
for a minute your age getting old has

3011
02:31:11,460 --> 02:31:09,130
its perks but remember being a few years

3012
02:31:13,679 --> 02:31:11,470
younger you know your hair was thicker

3013
02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:13,689
you didn't have so many wrinkles that

3014
02:31:17,969 --> 02:31:15,760
extra weight wasn't haunting you and you

3015
02:31:20,370 --> 02:31:17,979
just felt better well we can't turn back

3016
02:31:23,130 --> 02:31:20,380
the clocks and go back 10 or 15 years

3017
02:31:25,530 --> 02:31:23,140
but you can start feeling and looking 10

3018
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:25,540
or 15 years younger with nature's youth

3019
02:31:29,730 --> 02:31:28,210
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3020
02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:29,740
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3021
02:31:34,740 --> 02:31:31,930
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3022
02:31:36,389 --> 02:31:34,750
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3023
02:31:38,849 --> 02:31:36,399
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3024
02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:38,859
see how Nature's youth RSF has helped

3025
02:31:43,500 --> 02:31:40,810
thousands of people just like you at

3026
02:31:45,990 --> 02:31:43,510
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3027
02:31:47,370 --> 02:31:46,000
the holidays are coming imagine how it

3028
02:31:49,290 --> 02:31:47,380
will feel when your family and friends

3029
02:31:51,660 --> 02:31:49,300
are asking you what you did to look so

3030
02:31:53,940 --> 02:31:51,670
good your secret will be nature's youth

3031
02:31:56,519 --> 02:31:53,950
RSF it's time to start looking better

3032
02:31:58,500 --> 02:31:56,529
and feeling better learn more in order

3033
02:32:08,790 --> 02:31:58,510
your nature's use RSF at nature's youth

3034
02:32:23,319 --> 02:32:12,490
it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

3035
02:32:28,090 --> 02:32:23,329
born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ

3036
02:32:28,100 --> 02:32:41,791
[Music]

3037
02:32:49,570 --> 02:32:44,761
all right welcome back fade to black

3038
02:32:52,751 --> 02:32:49,580
that was fun Tracy Garvin and Richard

3039
02:32:56,051 --> 02:32:52,761
bleep and Dolan it's Tracy Garbett Dolan

3040
02:32:58,570 --> 02:32:56,061
by the way now you know all right I'm

3041
02:33:07,240 --> 02:32:58,580
going to open up the phone lines 3 2 3 a

3042
02:33:09,940 --> 02:33:07,250
2 5 5 0 4 5 or 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 great

3043
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:09,950
conversation tonight oh man

3044
02:33:18,520 --> 02:33:13,450
just fascinating that remote viewing

3045
02:33:21,070 --> 02:33:18,530
experience roof man and and everything

3046
02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:21,080
else too as well Tracy's amazing

3047
02:33:25,091 --> 02:33:23,690
Richard's amazing congratulations to the

3048
02:33:26,350 --> 02:33:25,101
both of them let's go to the phones hi

3049
02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:26,360
your life I'm fade to black who's

3050
02:33:32,950 --> 02:33:29,570
calling hey Jimmy it's come from a

3051
02:33:35,921 --> 02:33:32,960
Tuscadero hey Scott from a Tuscadero how

3052
02:33:37,240 --> 02:33:35,931
are you good buddy how are you man well

3053
02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:37,250
it's a great night tonight on the show

3054
02:33:43,810 --> 02:33:40,610
do you enjoy it it was really really

3055
02:33:48,161 --> 02:33:43,820
nice actually very nice and what's on

3056
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:48,171
your mind well um I am an RSC student

3057
02:33:54,421 --> 02:33:52,250
and I have been fur since 1990 Ranson

3058
02:33:58,091 --> 02:33:54,431
School of Enlightenment right on and

3059
02:34:01,810 --> 02:33:58,101
yeah man and I'll tell you if you want

3060
02:34:04,661 --> 02:34:01,820
to know and learn about creating reality

3061
02:34:07,301 --> 02:34:04,671
and finding out who you are you and Rita

3062
02:34:11,411 --> 02:34:07,311
ought to go there man because you will

3063
02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:11,421
not regret it at all and how long did

3064
02:34:17,740 --> 02:34:15,250
you I'd go through the program for I

3065
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:17,750
when I was up in Washington State I was

3066
02:34:24,850 --> 02:34:22,250
there I went for probably 10 years of

3067
02:34:27,400 --> 02:34:24,860
consecutive events you know for the most

3068
02:34:29,411 --> 02:34:27,410
part and then and then I left and then

3069
02:34:30,911 --> 02:34:29,421
went on my own thing but what's really

3070
02:34:32,890 --> 02:34:30,921
cool now about the schools that they do

3071
02:34:35,591 --> 02:34:32,900
all these online events that you can do

3072
02:34:37,841 --> 02:34:35,601
and learn through through the internet

3073
02:34:39,400 --> 02:34:37,851
obviously but being there is a whole

3074
02:34:41,680 --> 02:34:39,410
different experience obviously you know

3075
02:34:45,190 --> 02:34:41,690
it's almost like going to James's ranch

3076
02:34:48,100 --> 02:34:45,200
yeah I can I can only imagine what and

3077
02:34:52,631 --> 02:34:48,110
I'm serious about that too as well what

3078
02:34:55,661 --> 02:34:52,641
what attracted you to Ramtha what

3079
02:34:58,720 --> 02:34:55,671
was channeling at first was it that or

3080
02:35:01,991 --> 02:34:58,730
was it something else it was more of

3081
02:35:05,921 --> 02:35:02,001
what my mom was into at the time when

3082
02:35:08,201 --> 02:35:05,931
jay-z was doing events before the school

3083
02:35:10,631 --> 02:35:08,211
even started when she was traveling and

3084
02:35:13,390 --> 02:35:10,641
doing events around the United States I

3085
02:35:16,810 --> 02:35:13,400
think for the most part and channeling

3086
02:35:19,180 --> 02:35:16,820
Ram and then when she discovered who he

3087
02:35:20,770 --> 02:35:19,190
was and you know just resonated with her

3088
02:35:22,541 --> 02:35:20,780
and stuff and she had told me hey you

3089
02:35:24,251 --> 02:35:22,551
know you should come and check this out

3090
02:35:26,951 --> 02:35:24,261
you think he might really like it and

3091
02:35:32,291 --> 02:35:29,680
up until a little bit of resistance

3092
02:35:34,451 --> 02:35:32,301
until like the early nineties I think it

3093
02:35:35,741 --> 02:35:34,461
was 1990 and I finally gave in I was

3094
02:35:38,921 --> 02:35:35,751
like alright oh god let's do it you know

3095
02:35:41,341 --> 02:35:38,931
and and I went up and did some events

3096
02:35:46,631 --> 02:35:41,351
and once I was there I was hooked

3097
02:35:51,611 --> 02:35:46,641
enough said yeah yeah totally with with

3098
02:35:54,821 --> 02:35:51,621
the with the viewing did you have a

3099
02:35:58,861 --> 02:35:54,831
natural gift for it or was this

3100
02:36:02,680 --> 02:35:58,871
something that you trained to do no no I

3101
02:36:09,371 --> 02:36:02,690
this was for me it was more of you know

3102
02:36:13,060 --> 02:36:09,381
it's it's it's more of a place and you

3103
02:36:16,301 --> 02:36:13,070
know I there's a book that jay-z wrote

3104
02:36:20,890 --> 02:36:16,311
called the white book and it's her story

3105
02:36:23,291 --> 02:36:20,900
about how she became the encounter with

3106
02:36:29,081 --> 02:36:23,301
her and RAM and the whole story behind

3107
02:36:32,951 --> 02:36:29,091
it all and and stuff and and it was it's

3108
02:36:34,871 --> 02:36:32,961
you know the the quick simple term or

3109
02:36:36,611 --> 02:36:34,881
phrase of it all is like if you want to

3110
02:36:40,230 --> 02:36:36,621
know who God is you look at it in the

3111
02:36:43,211 --> 02:36:40,240
mirror every day kind of thing and so

3112
02:36:45,371 --> 02:36:43,221
when I went to that event

3113
02:36:47,770 --> 02:36:45,381
it's it's it's it's sort of a bell

3114
02:36:50,201 --> 02:36:47,780
ringer I mean it mean if it resonates

3115
02:36:51,761 --> 02:36:50,211
with you and it clicks you and it makes

3116
02:36:54,730 --> 02:36:51,771
you go oh my god this is it you know

3117
02:36:57,161 --> 02:36:54,740
boom you're golden but if not you know

3118
02:37:00,520 --> 02:36:57,171
maybe perhaps not you know it doesn't

3119
02:37:04,831 --> 02:37:00,530
ring the bell for everybody but it was

3120
02:37:06,370 --> 02:37:04,841
for me and and ever since I mean I I

3121
02:37:08,950 --> 02:37:06,380
wish I could

3122
02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:08,960
just have unlimited funds and not have

3123
02:37:12,429 --> 02:37:10,850
to work ever again and just go to the go

3124
02:37:15,310 --> 02:37:12,439
back to the ranch and go to events you

3125
02:37:17,590 --> 02:37:15,320
know from here on to Eternity he so much

3126
02:37:19,900 --> 02:37:17,600
it's great well Scott now that you're

3127
02:37:22,630 --> 02:37:19,910
here let me ask you because when I hear

3128
02:37:24,639 --> 02:37:22,640
you say this I have to ask the the next

3129
02:37:28,389 --> 02:37:24,649
the natural question you know there's

3130
02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:28,399
been a lot of negative press out there

3131
02:37:33,580 --> 02:37:31,610
too as well about what goes on up there

3132
02:37:35,950 --> 02:37:33,590
and though you know the the word cult

3133
02:37:37,480 --> 02:37:35,960
you know gets dropped in like they do

3134
02:37:41,020 --> 02:37:37,490
with anything you know this show has a

3135
02:37:42,700 --> 02:37:41,030
cult right you know so sure I get that

3136
02:37:47,260 --> 02:37:42,710
but it sounds like you had a very

3137
02:37:49,660 --> 02:37:47,270
positive experience there when you hear

3138
02:37:52,150 --> 02:37:49,670
the negative stuff does the negative

3139
02:37:55,260 --> 02:37:52,160
stuff is it based on reality or is it

3140
02:37:58,900 --> 02:37:55,270
made up or is it just disgruntled

3141
02:38:05,560 --> 02:37:58,910
unhappy people that just want to express

3142
02:38:11,530 --> 02:38:05,570
themselves in a negative way I believe

3143
02:38:15,130 --> 02:38:11,540
that there's no I mean you just if

3144
02:38:17,800 --> 02:38:15,140
you're if you're a true journey person

3145
02:38:21,460 --> 02:38:17,810
of becoming what you want to know who

3146
02:38:24,429 --> 02:38:21,470
you are really you'll know within

3147
02:38:27,160 --> 02:38:24,439
yourself I mean I don't think you have

3148
02:38:28,600 --> 02:38:27,170
to just you know shove it off you know

3149
02:38:31,929 --> 02:38:28,610
shrug it off your shoulders and say yeah

3150
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:31,939
whatever I mean I mean if you're gonna

3151
02:38:37,389 --> 02:38:34,640
know ultimately within yourself your

3152
02:38:39,400 --> 02:38:37,399
truth and your the knowingness and the

3153
02:38:42,010 --> 02:38:39,410
feeling within yourself that is so solid

3154
02:38:45,370 --> 02:38:42,020
that it's like it's unbreakable and

3155
02:38:47,290 --> 02:38:45,380
unshakable gym that you will know that

3156
02:38:49,870 --> 02:38:47,300
you're like you know what you can throw

3157
02:38:54,100 --> 02:38:49,880
me whatever you want I don't really care

3158
02:38:57,429 --> 02:38:54,110
because this is gold and it is solid is

3159
02:39:00,130 --> 02:38:57,439
like the most foundational thing within

3160
02:39:01,780 --> 02:39:00,140
myself that I've ever felt amongst

3161
02:39:05,860 --> 02:39:01,790
anything that I've experienced in my

3162
02:39:08,050 --> 02:39:05,870
entire life you know and and no person

3163
02:39:10,420 --> 02:39:08,060
no place thing timer event is ever going

3164
02:39:13,210 --> 02:39:10,430
to get in the way and say you know what

3165
02:39:16,270 --> 02:39:13,220
you should not you know fall for that

3166
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:16,280
you know mumbo-jumbo stuff you can just

3167
02:39:19,060 --> 02:39:17,570
luck that you could just look at the

3168
02:39:20,310 --> 02:39:19,070
person or whatever is telling you that

3169
02:39:21,961 --> 02:39:20,320
just laughing go yeah

3170
02:39:24,270 --> 02:39:21,971
whatever and you'll know within yourself

3171
02:39:28,020 --> 02:39:24,280
that your your there your your home you

3172
02:39:33,390 --> 02:39:28,030
know yeah fair enough fair enough I have

3173
02:39:38,551 --> 02:39:33,400
I have I have yet to break it out in

3174
02:39:41,180 --> 02:39:38,561
depth but I have I'm not going to say

3175
02:39:44,341 --> 02:39:41,190
how or when but I have the complete

3176
02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:44,351
ramza collection okay

3177
02:39:48,450 --> 02:39:45,730
I haven't telling you I'm telling you

3178
02:39:50,881 --> 02:39:48,460
man if you if you go there I mean it

3179
02:39:52,980 --> 02:39:50,891
james gilliland has been in his audience

3180
02:39:54,390 --> 02:39:52,990
before he no ask him about him when you

3181
02:39:57,631 --> 02:39:54,400
go to soul tag you'll be like hey you

3182
02:40:00,301 --> 02:39:57,641
know rampa he'll be like oh yeah you

3183
02:40:02,810 --> 02:40:00,311
know I mean I mean these guys are one

3184
02:40:05,070 --> 02:40:02,820
and one alike you know I mean uh-uh

3185
02:40:07,350 --> 02:40:05,080
but this play this school is definitely

3186
02:40:10,261 --> 02:40:07,360
about you know creating reality and crit

3187
02:40:12,330 --> 02:40:10,271
in your life and if you you in your wife

3188
02:40:14,220 --> 02:40:12,340
ever have an opportunity to like get

3189
02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:14,230
away for a few days and go do an event

3190
02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:16,090
there and stuff and actually find out

3191
02:40:22,341 --> 02:40:19,330
what goes on and and learn I mean it is

3192
02:40:24,360 --> 02:40:22,351
the coolest thing it is one of the best

3193
02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:24,370
investments you will ever have and it's

3194
02:40:28,470 --> 02:40:26,650
not super expensive and it's so worth it

3195
02:40:31,320 --> 02:40:28,480
man it is so worth it you will you'll

3196
02:40:33,120 --> 02:40:31,330
come back I'd be excited to like just

3197
02:40:34,711 --> 02:40:33,130
listen to your shoulders just to see

3198
02:40:39,150 --> 02:40:34,721
what you have to say like oh my god I

3199
02:40:40,921 --> 02:40:39,160
want to rse know oh my god it'll be cool

3200
02:40:42,600 --> 02:40:40,931
to hear hear you're the the energy

3201
02:40:46,440 --> 02:40:42,610
coming off you going yeah this is

3202
02:40:49,740 --> 02:40:46,450
awesome well you know I did I did I did

3203
02:40:54,450 --> 02:40:49,750
meet jay-z at contact in the desert and

3204
02:40:58,770 --> 02:40:54,460
I didn't have the opportunity to to sit

3205
02:41:00,631 --> 02:40:58,780
and talk and it got away from me and I'm

3206
02:41:04,320 --> 02:41:00,641
looking back my fans you know she was

3207
02:41:07,080 --> 02:41:04,330
right there we we shook hands and we

3208
02:41:11,220 --> 02:41:07,090
didn't we didn't get a chance to sit

3209
02:41:14,671 --> 02:41:11,230
down and talk but I would like to have

3210
02:41:16,830 --> 02:41:14,681
her on the show either as herself or a

3211
02:41:18,660 --> 02:41:16,840
few wants to come on is and channel ran

3212
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:18,670
thefor for the show I think that would

3213
02:41:24,810 --> 02:41:22,960
be equally as amazing but yeah I would

3214
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:24,820
like to have a jay-z on the show either

3215
02:41:29,041 --> 02:41:27,130
her aramta well you were you when you

3216
02:41:31,501 --> 02:41:29,051
were a study the first time you guys did

3217
02:41:33,400 --> 02:41:31,511
the whole the table ceremony and stuff

3218
02:41:37,381 --> 02:41:33,410
and like sat in the circle

3219
02:41:43,210 --> 02:41:37,391
right no we didn't do the table ceremony

3220
02:41:48,131 --> 02:41:43,220
it was it wasn't done and and I don't

3221
02:41:49,660 --> 02:41:48,141
believe the reason why it wasn't is that

3222
02:41:53,320 --> 02:41:49,670
particular night and I thought we were

3223
02:41:57,881 --> 02:41:53,330
gonna go there but we just got behind

3224
02:42:00,670 --> 02:41:57,891
schedule and we had literally 200 people

3225
02:42:03,551 --> 02:42:00,680
in the room and there wasn't there

3226
02:42:06,761 --> 02:42:03,561
wasn't an opportunity or room to do it

3227
02:42:09,460 --> 02:42:06,771
and we got so involved with some other

3228
02:42:11,560 --> 02:42:09,470
stuff and I think I would have to ask

3229
02:42:14,591 --> 02:42:11,570
James he probably wouldn't remember but

3230
02:42:18,131 --> 02:42:14,601
I think that's the reason why it just

3231
02:42:20,980 --> 02:42:18,141
got away from us and I'm kind of glad I

3232
02:42:22,750 --> 02:42:20,990
didn't do it because at that moment I

3233
02:42:26,381 --> 02:42:22,760
was going through some Heather stuff man

3234
02:42:28,420 --> 02:42:26,391
I didn't need anything else it was yeah

3235
02:42:29,860 --> 02:42:28,430
yeah who's really out no worries I mean

3236
02:42:31,660 --> 02:42:29,870
I'm just I'm just the reason why I ask

3237
02:42:33,910 --> 02:42:31,670
is because the energy that comes through

3238
02:42:36,250 --> 02:42:33,920
the room once you do that it almost

3239
02:42:37,570 --> 02:42:36,260
feels like this it feels it's very

3240
02:42:39,610 --> 02:42:37,580
similar and the same if not more

3241
02:42:43,330 --> 02:42:39,620
empowering when you're there at the

3242
02:42:45,011 --> 02:42:43,340
ranch when the fjz challenge ramps and

3243
02:42:46,390 --> 02:42:45,021
stuff when he comes in it's just it's a

3244
02:42:47,830 --> 02:42:46,400
day and night difference you know if you

3245
02:42:49,841 --> 02:42:47,840
if you ever get the chance to obviously

3246
02:42:52,120 --> 02:42:49,851
you met her a couple weeks ago or a week

3247
02:42:53,710 --> 02:42:52,130
ago and if you ever get up to the ranch

3248
02:42:55,930 --> 02:42:53,720
and then when you when his when his

3249
02:42:59,230 --> 02:42:55,940
energy and mine is in the body or when

3250
02:43:00,881 --> 02:42:59,240
he's you know mobilizing it it's it's

3251
02:43:05,051 --> 02:43:00,891
day night difference I mean you you'll

3252
02:43:07,720 --> 02:43:05,061
know you'll be like oh my god Wow I

3253
02:43:14,801 --> 02:43:07,730
don't think I've spoken about this on

3254
02:43:18,670 --> 02:43:14,811
the air but that that night the night

3255
02:43:22,120 --> 02:43:18,680
that if there was going to be the the

3256
02:43:25,841 --> 02:43:22,130
table tipping it would have it was that

3257
02:43:28,390 --> 02:43:25,851
night and so anyway I'm there I'm in the

3258
02:43:32,620 --> 02:43:28,400
zone right along with everybody else and

3259
02:43:34,120 --> 02:43:32,630
I have this crazy and I don't know where

3260
02:43:37,301 --> 02:43:34,130
it came from just came out of nowhere

3261
02:43:40,420 --> 02:43:37,311
which I never do religious stuff I don't

3262
02:43:43,220 --> 02:43:40,430
have religious thoughts you know I'm

3263
02:43:45,591 --> 02:43:43,230
talking about hardcore

3264
02:43:50,240 --> 02:43:45,601
religious things I just don't do it

3265
02:43:53,841 --> 02:43:50,250
right Christian or whatever and and this

3266
02:43:58,910 --> 02:43:53,851
crazy so I'm sitting there and I've got

3267
02:44:01,940 --> 02:43:58,920
my eyes closed and this vision this

3268
02:44:04,400 --> 02:44:01,950
think just comes in right on time

3269
02:44:07,490 --> 02:44:04,410
talking right on top of my pupils man

3270
02:44:15,881 --> 02:44:07,500
just right there and it's it's it's

3271
02:44:20,210 --> 02:44:15,891
bleeping Jesus with this four pronged

3272
02:44:23,690 --> 02:44:20,220
hallo very definite golden thing very

3273
02:44:25,940 --> 02:44:23,700
Renaissance type of painting kind of

3274
02:44:29,780 --> 02:44:25,950
thing right okay that's and that's what

3275
02:44:31,580 --> 02:44:29,790
it looks like these we've all seen these

3276
02:44:33,140 --> 02:44:31,590
different types of paintings and museums

3277
02:44:35,171 --> 02:44:33,150
and in books and the Bibles and things

3278
02:44:37,671 --> 02:44:35,181
so it's like that it's like some

3279
02:44:40,250 --> 02:44:37,681
Renaissance artists painting thing but

3280
02:44:43,700 --> 02:44:40,260
it just comes right up and stares at me

3281
02:44:45,730 --> 02:44:43,710
I'm most kind of weird all right okay

3282
02:44:48,290 --> 02:44:45,740
and I'm just kind of like you know and

3283
02:44:51,171 --> 02:44:48,300
the room was quiet at the time so anyway

3284
02:44:54,290 --> 02:44:51,181
this thing goes down and then somebody

3285
02:45:01,341 --> 02:44:54,300
says in the room I don't know if it was

3286
02:45:13,430 --> 02:45:01,351
James but says okay now Jesus and Mary

3287
02:45:15,110 --> 02:45:13,440
are here slow down here pop open and

3288
02:45:16,850 --> 02:45:15,120
they just pop open and I'm looking

3289
02:45:18,980 --> 02:45:16,860
around like did anybody see me and I'm

3290
02:45:21,980 --> 02:45:18,990
kind of tripping out right now and I

3291
02:45:24,950 --> 02:45:21,990
kind of look around and I was like that

3292
02:45:28,220 --> 02:45:24,960
I didn't need that you know that was

3293
02:45:30,440 --> 02:45:28,230
that was that was friggin strange so I

3294
02:45:32,930 --> 02:45:30,450
get up and this is back to the table

3295
02:45:34,551 --> 02:45:32,940
tipping I get up and everybody's just

3296
02:45:36,890 --> 02:45:34,561
you know in doing their thing and I got

3297
02:45:40,910 --> 02:45:36,900
out of there I got out of there I walked

3298
02:45:42,680 --> 02:45:40,920
outside I fired up a cigarette my hands

3299
02:45:47,980 --> 02:45:42,690
are shaking and I'm like wow that was

3300
02:45:51,530 --> 02:45:47,990
that was really really yeah well because

3301
02:45:53,091 --> 02:45:51,540
this is Scott this is what is important

3302
02:45:55,310 --> 02:45:53,101
for everybody to understand and I know

3303
02:45:55,700 --> 02:45:55,320
this sounds like freaky-deaky stuff I

3304
02:45:58,010 --> 02:45:55,710
don't

3305
02:46:00,740 --> 02:45:58,020
it doesn't matter what people think it

3306
02:46:03,410 --> 02:46:00,750
was my experience but the vision part of

3307
02:46:06,650 --> 02:46:03,420
it happened like five minutes before

3308
02:46:09,560 --> 02:46:06,660
anybody said anything and and it was

3309
02:46:12,140 --> 02:46:09,570
there and it was lasting and and I

3310
02:46:15,469 --> 02:46:12,150
didn't understand I never have those

3311
02:46:19,130 --> 02:46:15,479
types and never I could be watching I

3312
02:46:22,670 --> 02:46:19,140
could be watching the the most religious

3313
02:46:26,840 --> 02:46:22,680
movie or documentary or whatever or read

3314
02:46:29,390 --> 02:46:26,850
a book and those it goes away I I never

3315
02:46:31,550 --> 02:46:29,400
have those thoughts and but it happened

3316
02:46:34,430 --> 02:46:31,560
then it was weird man it was weird it

3317
02:46:36,830 --> 02:46:34,440
was weird and to have somebody in the

3318
02:46:38,840 --> 02:46:36,840
room say that at that moment it just

3319
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:38,850
freaked me out I didn't dig it man I

3320
02:46:45,920 --> 02:46:42,479
didn't dig it I I left I left I didn't

3321
02:46:48,320 --> 02:46:45,930
I'm telling you it was bizarre oh it was

3322
02:46:51,350 --> 02:46:48,330
bizarre I mean I listened to your show a

3323
02:46:59,990 --> 02:46:51,360
lot and I'm a dedicated listener almost

3324
02:47:03,530 --> 02:47:00,000
every day and I like listening to Jesus

3325
02:47:07,340 --> 02:47:03,540
brain farting sorry uh Jim Gilliam is

3326
02:47:08,930 --> 02:47:07,350
show on on his thing and and and all

3327
02:47:12,380 --> 02:47:08,940
hearing about all the different themes

3328
02:47:15,020 --> 02:47:12,390
and different consciousnesses of these

3329
02:47:16,610 --> 02:47:15,030
beans that come in to where they are and

3330
02:47:20,570 --> 02:47:16,620
stuff and at the ranch and everything

3331
02:47:23,719 --> 02:47:20,580
and and so when you say that about being

3332
02:47:25,130 --> 02:47:23,729
Jesus and and so on stuff I it doesn't

3333
02:47:28,190 --> 02:47:25,140
really surprise me because I mean it's

3334
02:47:29,390 --> 02:47:28,200
just like you know it's you know when

3335
02:47:35,000 --> 02:47:29,400
you're when you're at that kind of

3336
02:47:37,460 --> 02:47:35,010
frequency level and stuff that a person

3337
02:47:40,370 --> 02:47:37,470
or higher than I mean I'm sorry red

3338
02:47:42,740 --> 02:47:40,380
infrared or higher visible light and

3339
02:47:44,719 --> 02:47:42,750
those those frequencies in the fourth

3340
02:47:48,440 --> 02:47:44,729
fifth sixth and seventh levels it's just

3341
02:47:49,910 --> 02:47:48,450
you know everyone is it's like the big

3342
02:47:51,950 --> 02:47:49,920
party everyone's hanging out there and

3343
02:47:54,170 --> 02:47:51,960
it's like that's why we're not there and

3344
02:47:56,719 --> 02:47:54,180
that's that's the struggle of our

3345
02:47:59,990 --> 02:47:56,729
existence and and the evolution of

3346
02:48:02,180 --> 02:48:00,000
enlightenment and becoming something

3347
02:48:04,790 --> 02:48:02,190
more than you know what we've always

3348
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:04,800
been you know from lifetime after

3349
02:48:08,700 --> 02:48:06,720
lifetime millions and millions of years

3350
02:48:10,350 --> 02:48:08,710
over and over and over you know

3351
02:48:12,120 --> 02:48:10,360
what that's and that there's there's

3352
02:48:18,570 --> 02:48:12,130
something to be said about that because

3353
02:48:20,960 --> 02:48:18,580
for me where I just like you know I was

3354
02:48:27,440 --> 02:48:20,970
just talking to Richard about this where

3355
02:48:30,540 --> 02:48:27,450
I really enjoy documentaries or I like

3356
02:48:31,950 --> 02:48:30,550
nonfiction I like to read those kinds of

3357
02:48:34,020 --> 02:48:31,960
books and I'd like to do that kind of

3358
02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:34,030
research and that's what I've always

3359
02:48:40,219 --> 02:48:35,680
enjoyed in my life and then when you get

3360
02:48:44,070 --> 02:48:40,229
to this others this other side of things

3361
02:48:48,240 --> 02:48:44,080
I'm coming at it from a different

3362
02:48:51,900 --> 02:48:48,250
mindset and one that has always been

3363
02:48:55,550 --> 02:48:51,910
very skeptical and when somebody wants

3364
02:48:58,740 --> 02:48:55,560
to talk to me about Reiki or healing or

3365
02:49:02,370 --> 02:48:58,750
chakras or vibrations or crystals or

3366
02:49:04,110 --> 02:49:02,380
meditation and and these things I've

3367
02:49:07,920 --> 02:49:04,120
always had a difficult time with that

3368
02:49:09,570 --> 02:49:07,930
one I didn't really enjoy it in that it

3369
02:49:12,090 --> 02:49:09,580
wasn't something for me to go and

3370
02:49:14,760 --> 02:49:12,100
research but the other part of me was

3371
02:49:17,010 --> 02:49:14,770
always so black and white and that's

3372
02:49:20,130 --> 02:49:17,020
what I enjoy I just enjoy that

3373
02:49:23,219 --> 02:49:20,140
that that kind of stuff and when things

3374
02:49:25,650 --> 02:49:23,229
start to happen to you like they did

3375
02:49:29,880 --> 02:49:25,660
with me over the years and certainly uh

3376
02:49:34,440 --> 02:49:29,890
Patti said II it opens up your your mind

3377
02:49:35,880 --> 02:49:34,450
and those that are around you that have

3378
02:49:38,430 --> 02:49:35,890
been around me that talked to me about

3379
02:49:40,969 --> 02:49:38,440
these things now I have to listen you

3380
02:49:44,400 --> 02:49:40,979
know now I have because I can appreciate

3381
02:49:46,320 --> 02:49:44,410
where they are coming from it's it's a

3382
02:49:48,780 --> 02:49:46,330
different type of experience and it's

3383
02:49:51,719 --> 02:49:48,790
it's you know I don't really care what

3384
02:49:54,960 --> 02:49:51,729
people think anymore I really really

3385
02:49:57,120 --> 02:49:54,970
don't I'm not saying that I had some

3386
02:49:59,969 --> 02:49:57,130
religious experience I'm saying that the

3387
02:50:02,400 --> 02:49:59,979
synchronicity of what happened to me

3388
02:50:06,060 --> 02:50:02,410
there this strange vision the strange

3389
02:50:08,910 --> 02:50:06,070
thing that was very real on on my

3390
02:50:11,250 --> 02:50:08,920
eyelids and then a few minutes later to

3391
02:50:14,070 --> 02:50:11,260
have somebody say that I just got to

3392
02:50:16,310 --> 02:50:14,080
walk away I gotta walk away yeah I can't

3393
02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:16,320
I don't know if I would go back and

3394
02:50:20,979 --> 02:50:19,840
intentionally try to do it it freaked me

3395
02:50:23,679 --> 02:50:20,989
out that much

3396
02:50:25,570 --> 02:50:23,689
you know sure you know I had the little

3397
02:50:28,960 --> 02:50:25,580
singular experience I know that there's

3398
02:50:31,660 --> 02:50:28,970
something going on alright okay alright

3399
02:50:33,040 --> 02:50:31,670
so I just had to just kind of walk away

3400
02:50:34,240 --> 02:50:33,050
and think about it

3401
02:50:37,389 --> 02:50:34,250
you know that's what you have to do you

3402
02:50:39,760 --> 02:50:37,399
have to just go okay what yeah you know

3403
02:50:42,429 --> 02:50:39,770
you know Jimmy it's your experience man

3404
02:50:44,530 --> 02:50:42,439
it's your know it's your it's your truth

3405
02:50:46,510 --> 02:50:44,540
it's it doesn't really matter what I

3406
02:50:50,080 --> 02:50:46,520
think or anyone else thinks you know it

3407
02:50:52,389 --> 02:50:50,090
within yourself and it's like you can

3408
02:50:55,420 --> 02:50:52,399
you can feel good about within yourself

3409
02:50:58,540 --> 02:50:55,430
going right on man that was my trip

3410
02:51:01,000 --> 02:50:58,550
didn't my deal that's exactly solidified

3411
02:51:03,580 --> 02:51:01,010
in your knowingness and acceptance of it

3412
02:51:05,860 --> 02:51:03,590
and doesn't and that's it you don't have

3413
02:51:08,110 --> 02:51:05,870
to like let the world know about it I

3414
02:51:10,780 --> 02:51:08,120
mean that's your that's your soulful

3415
02:51:13,360 --> 02:51:10,790
thing going this is ma this is that was

3416
02:51:15,969 --> 02:51:13,370
Jimmy church's trip and nice right on I

3417
02:51:18,670 --> 02:51:15,979
I did it I mean right you for the Lark

3418
02:51:20,860 --> 02:51:18,680
out of my beam and thank you for

3419
02:51:23,260 --> 02:51:20,870
allowing me to be a participant of it

3420
02:51:28,840 --> 02:51:23,270
you know and and be solid with it you

3421
02:51:30,610 --> 02:51:28,850
know well and when when as as I went

3422
02:51:32,500 --> 02:51:30,620
through that weekend up there and he

3423
02:51:35,410 --> 02:51:32,510
said he now this wasn't I've had other

3424
02:51:40,300 --> 02:51:35,420
things happen in my life right but the

3425
02:51:44,170 --> 02:51:40,310
the the singular experience of ESET e

3426
02:51:49,719 --> 02:51:44,180
and I've said this enough now it was for

3427
02:51:52,059 --> 02:51:49,729
me overwhelming it was too much and all

3428
02:51:54,550 --> 02:51:52,069
of it it's just like this experience I

3429
02:51:59,439 --> 02:51:54,560
just told you about none of it was in my

3430
02:52:02,500 --> 02:51:59,449
control not not none of it I didn't go

3431
02:52:05,080 --> 02:52:02,510
and try it I didn't try to kick it off I

3432
02:52:06,460 --> 02:52:05,090
didn't have somebody that no it wasn't

3433
02:52:08,740 --> 02:52:06,470
about any of that each one of those

3434
02:52:11,920 --> 02:52:08,750
things that happened up there whether it

3435
02:52:14,500 --> 02:52:11,930
was the UFO sightings or that crazy my

3436
02:52:16,719 --> 02:52:14,510
ring disappearing in the fairy story or

3437
02:52:18,849 --> 02:52:16,729
or what happened to me in the Medicine

3438
02:52:22,540 --> 02:52:18,859
Wheel or this thing it was just like one

3439
02:52:24,849 --> 02:52:22,550
thing after another and after a certain

3440
02:52:26,410 --> 02:52:24,859
point we had that door open up on the

3441
02:52:30,519 --> 02:52:26,420
mountain you know this is like crazy

3442
02:52:33,970 --> 02:52:30,529
stuff this is like dad we need to slow

3443
02:52:38,320 --> 02:52:33,980
this down this is a bit

3444
02:52:40,631 --> 02:52:38,330
it was fine man it was fun Oh God yeah

3445
02:52:43,570 --> 02:52:40,641
never a dull moment man so you guys are

3446
02:52:44,711 --> 02:52:43,580
like just enthralled in the excitement

3447
02:52:47,470 --> 02:52:44,721
24/7

3448
02:52:50,230 --> 02:52:47,480
somebody said the other day I don't know

3449
02:52:52,180 --> 02:52:50,240
I might have been Theresa I think she

3450
02:52:55,211 --> 02:52:52,190
tweeted this all right we're all ready

3451
02:52:57,520 --> 02:52:55,221
to go for you know you know all systems

3452
02:52:59,381 --> 02:52:57,530
are go for Jimmy to go back in to hit

3453
02:53:03,761 --> 02:52:59,391
and I'm like you know what yeah probably

3454
02:53:05,860 --> 02:53:03,771
not probably not I'll be the observer on

3455
02:53:07,480 --> 02:53:05,870
this one hey Scott don't be a stranger

3456
02:53:10,600 --> 02:53:07,490
calling in to the show man great

3457
02:53:12,190 --> 02:53:10,610
conversation all right Jimmy take care

3458
02:53:15,461 --> 02:53:12,200
of stuff but yeah you too man have a

3459
02:53:17,411 --> 02:53:15,471
great night and if you can now go ahead

3460
02:53:25,001 --> 02:53:17,421
and reach out to jay-z and say you know

3461
02:53:25,961 --> 02:53:25,011
the doors open I'll talk to you man you

3462
02:53:28,270 --> 02:53:25,971
too buddy bye-bye

3463
02:53:30,190 --> 02:53:28,280
great great phone call right there love

3464
02:53:32,680 --> 02:53:30,200
first-time callers man there's nothing

3465
02:53:39,310 --> 02:53:32,690
quite like it I really enjoyed the show

3466
02:53:41,110 --> 02:53:39,320
tonight and my comments earlier at the

3467
02:53:45,570 --> 02:53:41,120
opening of the show I do want to go back

3468
02:53:52,980 --> 02:53:50,171
today myself and Rita and our daughter

3469
02:53:56,530 --> 02:53:52,990
Deanna just went through some trauma and

3470
02:53:59,350 --> 02:53:56,540
like I said things happen in threes and

3471
02:54:01,390 --> 02:53:59,360
we always hear that comment things

3472
02:54:05,081 --> 02:54:01,400
happen in threes things happen in threes

3473
02:54:08,831 --> 02:54:05,091
think well okay if that happened all

3474
02:54:13,030 --> 02:54:08,841
three happened to us today and hopefully

3475
02:54:16,841 --> 02:54:13,040
we'll have a have a nice clear path over

3476
02:54:20,711 --> 02:54:16,851
the months ahead now that we got today

3477
02:54:22,390 --> 02:54:20,721
out of the way but I didn't know what

3478
02:54:25,390 --> 02:54:22,400
this show was gonna be like tonight or

3479
02:54:28,390 --> 02:54:25,400
if I was even going to do it but I chose

3480
02:54:29,890 --> 02:54:28,400
to do it but also to talk about that at

3481
02:54:33,701 --> 02:54:29,900
the beginning of the show and I wanted

3482
02:54:37,030 --> 02:54:33,711
you to understand that if I hadn't have

3483
02:54:40,030 --> 02:54:37,040
mentioned the three things today doesn't

3484
02:54:44,951 --> 02:54:40,040
matter what they were that wouldn't be

3485
02:54:46,270 --> 02:54:44,961
fair and if later anything came out or I

3486
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:46,280
slipped

3487
02:54:53,890 --> 02:54:50,570
or anything and and to think that all of

3488
02:54:56,500 --> 02:54:53,900
you would go wow man I guess things

3489
02:54:59,590 --> 02:54:56,510
don't affect him that that's not cool

3490
02:55:02,650 --> 02:54:59,600
because they do and and I needed this

3491
02:55:06,520 --> 02:55:02,660
show tonight to to just get away from it

3492
02:55:09,220 --> 02:55:06,530
all and and use every one of you for

3493
02:55:11,920 --> 02:55:09,230
support and for a shoulder so thank you

3494
02:55:18,580 --> 02:55:11,930
for that but the other part of it is

3495
02:55:25,240 --> 02:55:18,590
that I want you to understand that even

3496
02:55:28,570 --> 02:55:25,250
over here in in my and Rita's world that

3497
02:55:32,320 --> 02:55:28,580
things can really really be difficult

3498
02:55:35,920 --> 02:55:32,330
and can go south you know and when you

3499
02:55:37,810 --> 02:55:35,930
are around others you never know what's

3500
02:55:40,900 --> 02:55:37,820
going on in somebody else's life and if

3501
02:55:42,790 --> 02:55:40,910
they're having a rough day or maybe

3502
02:55:45,220 --> 02:55:42,800
somebody is being you know a little off

3503
02:55:49,300 --> 02:55:45,230
but it or whatever you don't know you

3504
02:55:52,440 --> 02:55:49,310
know and always just stop and think you

3505
02:55:58,120 --> 02:55:52,450
know and and today it was it was rough

3506
02:56:01,270 --> 02:55:58,130
it was a rough one and now in the next

3507
02:56:06,430 --> 02:56:01,280
45 seconds I'm gonna sign off of this

3508
02:56:10,060 --> 02:56:06,440
show and go back to reality but tonight

3509
02:56:12,940 --> 02:56:10,070
for three hours you allowed Rita and I

3510
02:56:15,750 --> 02:56:12,950
to escape reality and hang out with all

3511
02:56:19,480 --> 02:56:15,760
of you and always remember always

3512
02:56:22,600 --> 02:56:19,490
remember when it gets difficult and when

3513
02:56:26,650 --> 02:56:22,610
it gets rough you have friends you have

3514
02:56:30,130 --> 02:56:26,660
family you go hang out and remember that

3515
02:56:33,060 --> 02:56:30,140
the Sun will always come up the next day

3516
02:56:36,430 --> 02:56:33,070
and you've got a fresh start and

3517
02:56:38,920 --> 02:56:36,440
everything is up to you so remember that

3518
02:56:42,700 --> 02:56:38,930
and with that I'm gonna get out of here

3519
02:56:47,350 --> 02:56:42,710
and go face some reality with Rita and I

3520
02:56:49,570 --> 02:56:47,360
am going to do a heavy dose of junk food

3521
02:56:51,850 --> 02:56:49,580
this is fade to black I'm your host

3522
02:56:55,030 --> 02:56:51,860
Jimmy Church I want to thank Tracy

3523
02:56:56,730 --> 02:56:55,040
Garbett Dolan and Richard Dolan for

3524
02:56:59,070 --> 02:56:56,740
coming in tonight and

3525
02:57:02,430 --> 02:56:59,080
solutely amazing show and I hope that

3526
02:57:04,290 --> 02:57:02,440
you enjoyed the reveal paid two blocks

3527
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:04,300
executive producers Riddick Omarion

3528
02:57:08,610 --> 02:57:06,160
Schultz produced by Hilton J Palmer nay

3529
02:57:10,940 --> 02:57:08,620
Dennis and Bob announcers are Steve

3530
02:57:14,190 --> 02:57:10,950
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3531
02:57:17,520 --> 02:57:14,200
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3532
02:57:20,910 --> 02:57:17,530
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3533
02:57:25,051 --> 02:57:20,920
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3534
02:57:30,330 --> 02:57:28,440
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3535
02:57:31,320 --> 02:57:30,340
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3536
02:57:33,360 --> 02:57:31,330
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3537
02:57:34,921 --> 02:57:33,370
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3538
02:57:37,261 --> 02:57:34,931
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3539
02:57:38,820 --> 02:57:37,271
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3540
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3541
02:57:40,890 --> 02:57:39,431
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3542
02:57:44,761 --> 02:57:40,900
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3543
02:57:45,330 --> 02:57:44,771
follow me on Twitter at JDO until

3544
02:57:50,120 --> 02:57:45,340
tomorrow night

3545
02:57:57,020 --> 02:57:50,130
Fator night open lines all night long

3546
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